2015 Labour rate survey

[Ray Stafford]

Hi All

We are in the process of gathering data for our 2015 "state of the trade" survey, in conjunction with Heating & plumbing magazine.

We have run this for many years now, and publish the results in the mag and online - including on this forum. Our aim is to provide plumbing and heating engineers and firms with market information to enable them to make better informed decisions about their own business.

Obviously the more tradesmen and companies that participate in the survey, the more useful the survey becomes, so please take a few minutes to complete the survey and get the chance to win an Apple iWatch thingy.

If you choose to complete the name and address data at the end (and thus enter the draw for the iWatch) we may use your data for marketing purposes, but will never pass it on to any 3rd party, and we will never disclose your individual responses to anyone. All data is anonymised before analysis and publication.

Just for clarity, in the labour rate questions, the figure we are after is how much you/your company charge the customer, not how much you personally get paid if you happen to be an employee or contractor.

Thanks for your help.

Best regards

Ray

 

[mutley racers]

Where's last year's.

 

[Ray Stafford]

View attachment Williams & Co 2014 State of Trade Survey.pdfView attachment Williams & Co 2014 State of Trade Survey.pdf

Where's last year's.

Trying to attach it as a PDF

 

[Ray Stafford]

Try again

 

[gasmanrob]

Done

 

[Atouchofgas]

Done

 

[SimonG]

Done. Still no oil though

 

[mutley racers]

Try again

Thanks. It won't let me open it though

 

[Plumbstar Tom]

opens for me

 

[Ray Stafford]

Thanks. It won't let me open it though

do you have adobe reader on whatever device you are using? It opens ok for me.

 

[SimonG]

Opens for me too.

Have a look in your downloads.

 

[Riley]

Done

 

[villa_tom]

Done

 

[hammers4spanner]

All done Mr Stafford

 

[PlumbBobBob]

done from your facebook link

 

[REDSAW]

alreadey got one ...loool

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[Chalked]

Same blooming hourly rate as 10 years ago! I bet I'm not the only one.

 

[Masood]

Done..

 

[Ray Stafford]

Same blooming hourly rate as 10 years ago! I bet I'm not the only one.

Hi Paul

I looked back to 2007, which is the first year that we really gathered good data, and subjected it to reasonable statistical analysis. It was also the last year before the crash and credit crunch.

Whats interesting is that the bottom quartile has hardly moved. In 2007 the bottom quartile was £26.50 for Gas and £25 for non-gas plumbing. The equivalents in 2014 were £30 (up 13%) and £25 (no change).

However, the median and upper quartile figures have risen sharply.

2007 median Gas work was £35, now £45, up 28.6%
2007 upper quartile gas work was £40, now £55, up 37.5%
2007 median plumbing was £28, now £35, up 25%
2007 upper quartile plumbing was £35, now £45 - up 28.6%

So there definitely does seem to be a category of plumber, or a category of work, that is still stuck at 2007 price levels, but there is a larger group (or a different type of work) which has broken free.

It isn't geographic - in fact over the years there has been an equalling out of labour rates across the country, and the only area now which commands a noticeable premium is inside the M25, and particularly in London itself. But this weird trend is true both inside and outside of the M25.

The other noticeable thing is that virtually no-one charges a labour figure that isn't divisible by 5. This means that tradesmen get behind - you should have put your rate from £30 to £31.25, and then to £32.75 and then to £34.19 and so on. But because people don't do that, after a few years, the accummulated inflation means that they need to add a whole tenner an hour to their rate. They rightly fear that their regulars will react badly to this.

 

[Leo21]

All done Ray, it doesn't cheer me up though.

 

[WaterTight]

The other noticeable thing is that virtually no-one charges a labour figure that isn't divisible by 5. This means that tradesmen get behind - you should have put your rate from £30 to £31.25, and then to £32.75 and then to £34.19 and so on. But because people don't do that, after a few years, the accummulated inflation means that they need to add a whole tenner an hour to their rate. They rightly fear that their regulars will react badly to this.

same with drug dealers.

 

[Riley]

Done Ray

 

[IDCHAPPY]

Done buddy

 

[Roger Welton]

Done

 

[cr0ft]

Done and done.

 

[mutley racers]

do you have adobe reader on whatever device you are using? It opens ok for me.

Adobe reader hey, my phone keeps telling me that android don't accept it any more as they are stopping making it or something like that

 

[Nostrum]

Ive done it but it was plus VAT prices wasn't it?

 

[lame plumber]

done for another year not inc vat

 

[mfgs]

Done, always interesting to see the results of this.

 

[Chalked]

Did it yesterday

 

[kozak1968]

All done

 

[Ray Stafford]

Hi All

for those of you who completed the online survey - many thanks. We have had a lot more responses this year than in previous years, which improves the accuracy.

If you haven't completed it, please do so now - it will be closing early next week.

The survey outcomes will be published here, and in the HPM magazine

Here's the link

 

[dave1]

Hi All

for those of you who completed the online survey - many thanks. We have had a lot more responses this year than in previous years, which improves the accuracy.

If you haven't completed it, please do so now - it will be closing early next week.

The survey outcomes will be published here, and in the HPM magazine

Here's the link

Done

 

[solutions]

Done

 

[Rckape]

Done

 

[stevetheplumber]

done no option for retirment this year???? not that it applies to me destined to die in the saddle

 

[Leo21]

Very poor Ray, I was expecting the results already.

 

[townfanjon]

Done

 

[dave1]

Where can I find the results from this Ray?

 

[Ray Stafford]

Where can I find the results from this Ray?

On this thread Dave.

See the PDF attached to the OP.

 

[dave1]

I can't see the pdf, is that because I'm using the app on my phone?

 

[Ray Stafford]

I can't see the pdf, is that because I'm using the app on my phone?

MIght be. Its an attachment at the bottom of OP.

If you can't get it, PM me an email address, and I will email you a copy.