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So Danny has them both in hand and still tries to defend the reason Knipex are not as good, with a lidl vac and Rotemburber on a Mapp. in the same picture.

Irony so hard. Much trust. Advisory member. 100%
 
I prefer 10" for everyday working and they open up big enough for pump valves. The setting are just much better placed than rottenbergs which always seem a bit out to me on 3/4 nuts and i do't like the feel of them in my hand.
The old rothenbergs from about 20 years ago were different and better.

I was luck to get mine. I was on a job and the joiners had one of the lidl hoovers i went into the shop on the way home but there were none as they had been out the week before. I asked one of the girls. She got the manager who had a look through the back and there was still one there so lucky white heater.
It would sook the pattern off the carpet :lol:
 
Gas said:
So Danny has them both in hand and still tries to defend the reason Knipex are not as good, with a lidl vac and Rotemburber on a Mapp. in the same picture.

Irony so hard. Much trust. Advisory member. 100%
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Gas I have no idea what you are getting at. I can give an informed opinion of what I prefer as I own and use both. I photographed the Cobras to send to my brother as we are sad like that. The other things in the back ground (vac and blow torch) have nothing to do with this conversation.
 
Dannypipe said:
Gas I have no idea what you are getting at. I can give an informed opinion of what I prefer as I own and use both. I photographed the Cobras to send to my brother as we are sad like that. The other things in the back ground (vac and blow torch) have nothing to do with this conversation.
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Ok .
 
tamz said:
Had a pair of those for about 3 or 4 years now. Good grips for cp nuts. Don't buy raptors they are not good.
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Between those and my Milwaukee grips i'm sorted.

had two bahco grips, bent one and the second i snapped!

My friend has those nerrad ones.
fall a little bit short compared to the knipex though.
still nice kit.
 
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Nerrad do seem capable of having other peoples stuff rebranded too, I thought I recognised the wide mouth jaw:

Nerrad Super Wide Aluminium Wrench - 68mm Jaw | Nerrad Limited NTMW68A

Toolstation > Hand Tools > Plumbers Tools > Superwide Jaws Adjustable Wrench

I bought one a while back from Toolstation bit it snapped on first application. They are just very light aluminium. Probably OK if you are dress making or flower arranging but not much cop for anything else. Sadly it undermines Nerrad's values a little...
 
Bunker said:
Nerrad do seem capable of having other peoples stuff rebranded too, I thought I recognised the wide mouth jaw:

Nerrad Super Wide Aluminium Wrench - 68mm Jaw | Nerrad Limited NTMW68A

Toolstation > Hand Tools > Plumbers Tools > Superwide Jaws Adjustable Wrench

I bought one a while back from Toolstation bit it snapped on first application. They are just very light aluminium. Probably OK if you are dress making or flower arranging but not much cop for anything else. Sadly it undermines Nerrad's values a little...
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You know what bunker, this was one tool that i actually got given for free in my first batch of goodies from them. We're asked to be over critical by the boys and believe it or not, told to do everything to find the breaking point. Obviously to do this, you normally have to way beyond what you would do on a normal day to day basis.

However, i did found the breaking point of these reletively quickly whilst bashing it whilst trying to undo an a seized c/h pump nut, in fairness they do market it as light duty.
They did save my life though a few times whilst working in a housing block in Kent where i had to change 4 siphons in concealed cisterns with crazy limited access. Normally i'd have to resort to a biggish set of pump pliers which you couldn't possible of spun in this void and bloody ***bersome using them blind. This is one place where these little spanners are a Godsend.


The toolsation ones are supplied by Nerrad but just with a different logo. Not sure why though.
 
Mickyplumb said:
You know what bunker, this was one tool that i actually got given for free in my first batch of goodies from them. We're asked to be over critical by the boys and believe it or not, told to do everything to find the breaking point. Obviously to do this, you normally have to way beyond what you would do on a normal day to day basis.

However, i did found the breaking point of these reletively quickly whilst bashing it whilst trying to undo an a seized c/h pump nut, in fairness they do market it as light duty.
They did save my life though a few times whilst working in a housing block in Kent where i had to change 4 siphons in concealed cisterns with crazy limited access. Normally i'd have to resort to a biggish set of pump pliers which you couldn't possible of spun in this void and bloody ***bersome using them blind. This is one place where these little spanners are a Godsend.


The toolsation ones are supplied by Nerrad but just with a different logo. Not sure why though.
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Actually, i remember them saying, the new model has a beefed up lower jaw. The Toolstation ones were the older model.
 
Mickyplumb said:
You know what bunker, this was one tool that i actually got given for free in my first batch of goodies from them. We're asked to be over critical by the boys and believe it or not, told to do everything to find the breaking point. Obviously to do this, you normally have to way beyond what you would do on a normal day to day basis.

The toolsation ones are supplied by Nerrad but just with a different logo. Not sure why though.
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This is just a complete and utter lie, the spanner is made by Spear & Jackson and supplied to TS via a subsidiary called Todays Tools. All Nerrad has done is re brand under licensing.

That is all this Nerrad seems to do, re brand other peoples tools.
 
Gas said:
This is just a complete and utter lie, the spanner is made by Spear & Jackson and supplied to TS via a subsidiary called Todays Tools. All Nerrad has done is re brand under licensing.

That is all this Nerrad seems to do, re brand other peoples tools.
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Gas, you are a total .

The guys at Nerrad supplied Todays Tools with them, they are made in Japan by a company called SuperTool out of Osaka. Spear and Jackson, come on. You are the typical guy who hasn't got the balls to try and build something good like these boys are doing, fighting the odds like you wouldn't believe. They do have Monument make some bits, that i do know but certain things that Monument make are the best of the best, take the cast immersion wrench for example.


Try to spend less time looking for arguments and break out of your mold and do something positive for yourself instead of knocking others who are trying. Clearly, you haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about.
 
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Anyway, back to topic if we may.

I quite like the look of something like this. I'm a bit of a gadget tool freak & these sorts of tools appeal to me.

I presume that you'd have to have it inserted into the pipe a reasonable length so as not to melt the rubber bung?!

I would imagine that as with most tools it has it's limitations, say when the valve you're cutting out is near to an elbow so the amount of pipe available to insert it into is restricted?!

On the whole, looks good.
 
No swearing on these forums.

No matter how much you've been aggravated.

Mickyplumb said:
Gas, you are a total .

The guys at Nerrad supplied Todays Tools with them, they are made in Japan by a company called SuperTool out of Osaka. Spear and Jackson, come on. You are the typical guy who hasn't got the balls to try and build something good like these boys are doing, fighting the odds like you wouldn't believe. They do have Monument make some bits, that i do know but certain things that Monument make are the best of the best, take the cast immersion wrench for example.


Try to spend less time looking for arguments and break out of your mold and do something positive for yourself instead of knocking others who are trying. Clearly, you haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about.
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TomLane said:
Anyway, back to topic if we may.

I quite like the look of something like this. I'm a bit of a gadget tool freak & these sorts of tools appeal to me.

I presume that you'd have to have it inserted into the pipe a reasonable length so as not to melt the rubber bung?!

I would imagine that as with most tools it has it's limitations, say when the valve you're cutting out is near to an elbow so the amount of pipe available to insert it into is restricted?!

On the whole, looks good.
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From memory, i think the bung has to be a few inches in but it's some sort of high temp silicon rubber and they were looking at supplying the bungs on their own incase you mess one up.



My 28mm has a little chunk out of it where i whacked it in hard to a but of copper that was badly burred, still holds fine though. Plugged a 28mm vent the other day with it while flushing, didn't lose a drop.

Sorry moderator, won't happen again. :thumbs_down:
 
tbh looks very micky mouse, but if it floats your boat then go for it.

Although the vid is very contrived, something more lifelike would have been better. I can pee quicker than that pipe was flowing.
 
SimonG said:
tbh looks very micky mouse, but if it floats your boat then go for it.

Although the vid is very contrived, something more lifelike would have been better. I can pee quicker than that pipe was flowing.
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It's one of those tools Si that probably sits in the van for months on end. Admittedly, I look for reasons to use and did I get by before I had one, yes.

But it has saved a couple of times but paid for itself (not that I did pay for it) a few times over in saved time whilst power flushing, that's for sure.

Simple but clever, that's how I describe it.
 
Mickyplumb said:
Gas, you are a total .

The guys at Nerrad supplied Todays Tools with them, they are made in Japan by a company called SuperTool out of Osaka. Spear and Jackson, come on. You are the typical guy who hasn't got the balls to try and build something good like these boys are doing, fighting the odds like you wouldn't believe. They do have Monument make some bits, that i do know but certain things that Monument make are the best of the best, take the cast immersion wrench for example.


Try to spend less time looking for arguments and break out of your mold and do something positive for yourself instead of knocking others who are trying. Clearly, you haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about.
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No they do not supply them, this is a fact and in any case makes absolutely no sense.

All Nerrad do is rebrand other people's tools, they do not make or design tooling of any kind, quite why you are trying to suggest otherwise is a mystery, I suspect you are just a mole for the company going on various forums spreading the word of how great these tools are to drum up sales, a very risky strategy because if found out a company uses this tactic, it normally leads to massive consumer distrust.

At best micky, you are tarnishing what little reputation they have got with replys like the above
 
I couldn't resist, in reply to your comment about not having the balls to build something like them, atleast my business has a fully set up, working and active website.

Amateurs
 
Gas said:
No they do not supply them, this is a fact and in any case makes absolutely no sense.

All Nerrad do is rebrand other people's tools, they do not make or design tooling of any kind, quite why you are trying to suggest otherwise is a mystery, I suspect you are just a mole for the company going on various forums spreading the word of how great these tools are to drum up sales, a very risky strategy because if found out a company uses this tactic, it normally leads to massive consumer distrust.

At best micky, you are tarnishing what little reputation they have got with replys like the above
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Honestly Gas, I'm sure you're a really nice bloke in real life but you need to go to bed mate....you're getting tired :)
 
Mickyplumb said:
Honestly Gas, I'm sure you're a really nice bloke in real life but you need to go to bed mate....you're getting tired :)
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All businesses are open to scrutiny, I am sorry you are so upset over this seeing as you claim you do not work there designing packaging and ordering tools in from the far east.

Night.
 
Gas said:
All businesses are open to scrutiny, I am sorry you are so upset over this seeing as you claim you do not work there designing packaging and ordering tools in from the far east.

Night.
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Of course all businesses are open the scrutiny, won't argue there. I'm not sure about the designing packaging and ordering tools in bit though, wish I had the sense then I wouldn't have to spend my life under baths !

Night Gas.
 
OK STOP hijacking this thread with daft banter or Ill bang yer 'eds together. Facts like 'they are made by" and "they are not made by" ought to be substantiated with evidence rather than flung at each other in a way that appears merely opinion.

Admin: Can you change the topic header to "Nerrad tools" - be interesting to open this up as a topic on their selection alone.

Next review for me:
I bought another one of theirs today, the adjustable ratchet wrench. Plumber in PTS was raving about his, so I bought one. I tried it immediately I got back to site and found it disappointing: when the nut was less than hand tight the spring action just turned it back and forth so I nipped it up by hand as tight as poss, no problem with that. The tool worked very well (although tricky to keep on the nut as its a slack fit) until it got fairly tight, then it just slips round. This was on a hex nut, if it was on a ridged bumpy type one (no idea what they are called), then it woudnt stand a chance.
Overall, like the Jet Sweat, an expensive investment for something that may get used very rarely, ie possibly for some turning in a tight place. Shame because the theory is excellent.

Oh, and back to the wide jaw, Nerrad market them as Medium Duty, its written on the packet. Oh and made in China apparently (Quote from Supertool MFTN68A 8" Aluminum Adjustable Wrench Wide Opening)
 
name changed as requested. i'll look the other way if you bang some 'eds together :smile5:
 
Re: Jet Sweat

Bunker said:
OK STOP hijacking this thread with daft banter or Ill bang yer 'eds together. Facts like 'they are made by" and "they are not made by" ought to be substantiated with evidence rather than flung at each other in a way that appears merely opinion.

Admin: Can you change the topic header to "Nerrad tools" - be interesting to open this up as a topic on their selection alone.

Next review for me:
I bought another one of theirs today, the adjustable ratchet wrench. Plumber in PTS was raving about his, so I bought one. I tried it immediately I got back to site and found it disappointing: when the nut was less than hand tight the spring action just turned it back and forth so I nipped it up by hand as tight as poss, no problem with that. The tool worked very well (although tricky to keep on the nut as its a slack fit) until it got fairly tight, then it just slips round. This was on a hex nut, if it was on a ridged bumpy type one (no idea what they are called), then it woudnt stand a chance.
Overall, like the Jet Sweat, an expensive investment for something that may get used very rarely, ie possibly for some turning in a tight place. Shame because the theory is excellent.

Oh, and back to the wide jaw, Nerrad market them as Medium Duty, its written on the packet. Oh and made in China apparently (Quote from Supertool MFTN68A 8" Aluminum Adjustable Wrench Wide Opening)
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Seen the Supertool website, the light duty original were Chinese but the medium with the beefier jaw apparently made by the Japanese company. So the fellas tell me anyway. I broke a light duty trying to undo a seized pump nut but the new ones have been fine but I doubt I'd bash them too hard.

I have the bigger of the two ratchet wrenches, quite a chunky bit of kit. I find that the jaws have to snugged up nicely on the nut otherwise you're right, they can slip. Clever mechanism though but probably wouldn't tolerate loads of muck getting into the sliding jaw part of it. I use mine all the time TBH.
 
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Gas said:
I couldn't resist, in reply to your comment about not having the balls to build something like them, atleast my business has a fully set up, working and active website.

Amateurs
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im with gas on this! My brand new Nerrad cutters all bloody spiral! 2nd set to do this, less than 30 cuts I estimate in use! They have no website, and contact details hard to come by for Nerrad tools..
 
Having used the ratchet wrench now for a few weeks, it is mildly useful here and there but no good on nuts that are too loose or too tight. I'll keep it in the bag but won't get used much, was only £17 so will pay for itself inside a year I guess. Quality wise, it's definitely got the Chinese feel about it.

I bought the the ratchet pipe slices too, they are clearly just made by whoever makes the monument ones, just add plastic case. They are ok but if space is tight I'd probably go back to normal pipe slice and pump wrench.
 
Gray0689 said:
Don't even have any pump pliers footprints are best
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I was same, but I was given a pair of Elliot Lucas pump pliers & have found them better than Footprints for certain jobs where there is working space for longer handles of the pump pliers.
The pump pliers with their smaller plier opening have the advantage over Footprints in some tight spots & have comfortable brilliant leverage & grip. I was able to remove 1/2" tap spindle that had sheared off a bath mixer leaving a mere few mm above the surface, using pump pliers. I now wouldn't want to be without them just incase I get a job that suits them better.
Footprints def are the best for most jobs - especially where no room for large handles.
 
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gassafe said:
im with gas on this! My brand new Nerrad cutters all bloody spiral! 2nd set to do this, less than 30 cuts I estimate in use! They have no website, and contact details hard to come by for Nerrad tools..
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You won't get a replacement, even though they will tell you they are on next day delivery anyway, i gave up after 3 weeks, pretty sure that is their game plan.
 
I had the wide jaw supertool adjustable which is the same but re branded for nerrads offering.

i would say that the aluminium build does it no favours.

being aluminium using it on a nut that is already fairly tight actually flexes it slightly allowing it to slip!
I also used it on a Crome nut and found it just slipped.

in the end i bent it slightly, didn't use it for a few weeks.

after that i was rather silly with it and managed to somehow, jam it in position and wedge the adjustment in position, no matter what i did i couldn't free it up.

i have since got another and cut the handle off it, perfect for awkward to reach places, giving you that little bit more grip before using the basin wrench.

overall, it isn't bahco
 
I have one from tool station. Not impressed it feels like it came out of a cracker or a gum ball machine or something. Way too loose on the adjustment tolerances and flexes in all sorts of directions. Nice idea badly produced. I originally bought it to do up basin waste backnuts when dressing basins. But have not found them as effective as large pump pliers.
 
Weight is misleading tho, was going to say you like to know you holding a spanner but my offset 18" rigids weigh same as 8" Bacho adjustable. Fist time I picked them up though there was something a miss, gladly proven wrong tho.
 
Gas said:
You won't get a replacement, even though they will tell you they are on next day delivery anyway, i gave up after 3 weeks, pretty sure that is their game plan.
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Give them a call, they'd never make anyone wait 3 weeks for a replacement
 
Gas said:
You won't get a replacement, even though they will tell you they are on next day delivery anyway, i gave up after 3 weeks, pretty sure that is their game plan.
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Gas and Gasafe
Went into Nerrad's place today to pick up some new products for testing.
I showed them this thread, they said that no on has spoken to them about faulty tube cutters at all and as I said previously, they would never make anyone wait 3 weeks.
They want to know who you spoke to ?
 
Mickyplumb said:
Gas and Gasafe
Went into Nerrad's place today to pick up some new products for testing.
I showed them this thread, they said that no on has spoken to them about faulty tube cutters at all and as I said previously, they would never make anyone wait 3 weeks.
They want to know who you spoke to ?
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my original set went back to corgi direct, now that set do the same I was given a nerrad tool hotline number which did not work! I could not find there existence online so got back to corgi and got another number... I tried that but there was no answer possibly too near too Xmas?

Iv still got em. Might try the number again some time!
 
You can tell them to change the jet swets to a pistol ratcheting design too..... Would be usefull then
 
gassafe said:
my original set went back to corgi direct, now that set do the same I was given a nerrad tool hotline number which did not work! I could not find there existence online so got back to corgi and got another number... I tried that but there was no answer possibly too near too Xmas?

Iv still got em. Might try the number again some time!
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Honestly GS, they were pretty gutted when they saw the post. What number have you got, 0845 3051602 ?
 
Killy Bing said:
You can tell them to change the jet swets to a pistol ratcheting design too..... Would be usefull then
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That's interesting you say that, they tried another type of bung that did work on a kind of ratcheting system, it was actually a cable to disimilar to the silicon gun operation.. I tried this and it was pretty cool but could hold hardly any pressure and kept blowing out, no way could it have been used to hold mains pressure back.
 
gassafe said:
Il try again, the number is in my email history but takes ages to find! Thanks, I shall let ya all know the outcome from Nerrad...
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Do that, ask for Toby, just a young guy but he'll sort it out for you without a doubt. Threaten him with Mick (I'm twice his size !) if he gives you any agg :)
 
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