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must be too expensive lol
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they should introduce a trade test like every other trade at the end of apprenticeship
I have much the same opinion of colleges as Gray.
4 lads i sent through collage and the standard of teaching definitely dropped over the years. So much so i complained to both the collage and Snipef with the last one. How can you pass an exam, or stupid module as they are now, and be totally clueless on the subject? It happens all the time because there is no need to actually memorise anything when you have the books in front of you.
I think it is an overall education thing though and not just confined to colleges.
Yes I call it basic nvq3 as I see 2 of our boys doing it and they hate going as they learn nothing that's in there words we don't go gas over here we do oil
So I can't comment on gas side I did gas separate and never touched any natural just LPG
Unvented can be done in 2 days
Maybe your colleges are a lot better I don't know but where I live to be frank I think there crap
You say it gives complete training plumb up a couple of rads in black iron on industrial install lol what does that teach how to use a hand threader that's about it
I saw boys who only did industrial plumbing and did not have a clue about domestic but still passed gave you ever heard of ANYONE failing I have not
That's my opinion
sparks, joiners, painters etc still do a trades test
You put it a lot beter than me tamz
To me learning is about hands on
i remember all my mates panicing about their trades test around the time i was panicing about my ACS lol
Not lazy - i'm glad for you, im sorry the college is letting them downYes nvq3
Not lazy good lads
I have seen complete numptys pass nvq3 could not join there hands together if they stay till end they WILL pass
Fuzzy I'm guessing your an instructor??
many smaller assessments throughout the year is easier to achieve imo.
I'm not knocking training at all done loads of realy good courses and learnt a lot
But the plumbing nvqs are not teaching what is needed in plumbing in my eyes
As for today's plumbing being more technical in some aspects it is but I see a lot going back to more wood burning stoves log burners teed in to heating but then incorperating underfloor systems solar ect so a little different but still simple enough
I think the hole industry is in a real mess at this present time
In my local college they go over the exam before it's taken then if they get less than 80% have to do again then they fo it verbal till passed and that goes on till the end
I did nvq3 why
Yes thought it was a waste of time to be honest and that's how they do it at our local college only one they do online is the last one
well thats out of date, im not even sure they can do that anymore, are you sure they still do it that way?
my tutor friend, Tony S, said he got lots of complaints from a group once, they said the previous tutor was a waste of time and taught them nothing, not sure what the subject was but say it was cold water, he started to ask them cold water questions and they answered them all, they were happy and smug as they did so, upon completion he said " so he taught you nothing did he?". I think we tend to look back and think that at times, im sure we learn all the time without knowing it, imagine your own days at work, you are always gaining from every job. now i agree there are good and bad teachers, there was at school, theres good and bad plumbers, but lets not take one experience and say its common across the board
here its a week in college every 3rd week for 3 years in the normal school hours and holidays, rest is on site
Remember L2 is not an option up here. You are signing up for the 3 years min with the option of 4 if you are clever enough :wink: lol
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