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[Millsy 82]

To be really precise even if you used water fittings it would be physically better than a solder fitting. First of all the temperature difference is unique.. the solder will start melting about 185c but the o ring can withstand higher temperature as they are high efficiency o rings same as for gas 630c for 30min your solder is in seconds gone and will cause problems. Furthermore the fittings can withstand higher pressure than soldered joints. 15 -100bar . let me check 10 properties in UK with 50 bat and I will show you how good your soldering is you cannot beat technology

You may be right but you wouldn't be here arguing about a yellow dot. Lol.

 

[Harvest Fields]

You can do whatever you want. I dont need your apology I really could care less. And I will proof you wrong again. Hang on, as I run out of brass stuff I will get in the next couple of days the next delivery. I will proof you wrong in the next minutes as I will show you the right T which I used.

I’m happy to be wrong. Would love to see the correct tee you used. Or I would be happy with a part number that you have ordered and I will have a look.

 

[Old Account]

You may be right but you wouldn't be here arguing about a yellow dot. Lol.

I would argue. If use brasso that will disappear

 

[Old Account]

I’m happy to be wrong. Would love to see the correct tee you used. Or I would be happy with a part number that you have ordered and I will have a look.

I dont order from viega direct ha e for some mates in Germany

 

[Harvest Fields]

I dont order from viega direct ha e for some mates in Germany

That old chestnut

 

[Old Account]

You are right it is not the viega fitting it was an old x press fitting I had left. However, it is safe and gas rated but due to the brasso it's gone. However, I have ordered from my mates new fittings and the latest viega book. I will also show you the raxofix fittings which are high end quality.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Hold on so you couldn’t stretch to lagging but you spent time and money using braso and time cleaning them shiny

Arse backwards me thinks

 

[ShaunCorbs]

To be really precise even if you used water fittings it would be physically better than a solder fitting.

First of all the temperature difference is unique.. the solder will start melting about 185c but the o ring can withstand higher temperature as they are high efficiency o rings same as for gas 630c for 30min your solder is in seconds gone and will cause problems.

Furthermore the fittings can withstand higher pressure than soldered joints. 15 -100bar . let me check 10 properties in UK with 50 bat and I will show you how good your soldering is you cannot beat technology

lets address some of these statements

wrong the additives in the gas attack the non gas rated oring breaking it down and in turn leaking / passing past the oring

if the gas line is above 130 dc temp wise i think you have bigger issues as the incoming service could be plastic, which as you know doesnt like heat/ hot environments and this will cause a problem before the solder melts

copper pressed can only be used on and upto 5 bar stainless can only be used upto 10 bar

as for soldered and your stated 15-100/50 bar tests, as you already know you cant soft solder past 75 mbar you need to braze in turn answers your second point braze will go well past press in regards to temp ratings and tbh you will prob find your copper tops out around 30 bar anyway

 

[Old Account]

Hold on so you couldn’t stretch to lagging but you spent time and money using braso and time cleaning them shiny

Arse backwards me thinks

What the hell do I need lagging for mate. The whole house hasn't been lagged and it is over 70 years old. Do t get me wrong but you are extremely o er the top as usual. I'd like to see your jobs seriously I bet I could identify loads of faults

 

[Old Account]

lets address some of these statements

wrong the additives in the gas attack the non gas rated oring breaking it down and in turn leaking / passing past the oring

if the gas line is above 130 dc temp wise i think you have bigger issues as the incoming service could be plastic, which as you know doesnt like heat/ hot environments and this will cause a problem before the solder melts

copper pressed can only be used on and upto 5 bar stainless can only be used upto 10 bar

as for soldered and your stated 15-100/50 bar tests, as you already know you cant soft solder past 75 mbar you need to braze in turn answers your second point braze will go well past press in regards to temp ratings and tbh you will prob find your copper tops out around 30 bar anyway

I dont k ow where you digged that but it ain't all correct. But you are the one and only plumber on earth who knowns it all.

The non additives which you are talking about dont destroy the o ring is the viega fitting is double crimped before and after the bead. There is no chance of he o ring perishing away. Its totally new for me that you can use plastic tips on gas pipe lines should be all rubber lined metal so there hardly any chance of melting and collapsing. Get your head around it's not 80s no more and technology moves on. Soldering was good in 80s but its 21st century and things have changed to make it safer, faster and out lasting older technologies. Who is still grazing nowadays that can only be done in UK where everything is so prestige lol.