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  1. Chris Bradder

    Chris Bradder New Member

    Hi all

    My first post here and after a little advice, please.

    I have a downstairs shower room and the old towel rail (now thrown away) had pipes that are under the concrete floor. Since throwing the old rad and refurbishing the room I’ve noticed the pipes are an odd size.
    The centres are 425mm and can’t find another rad anywhere that fits this size.

    I have picked up a 450mm wide towel rad from my local merchant and the centres on this are 410mm.

    Is there any way that I can bring the old pipes in somehow without getting a plumber round to sort it??

    Am I able to use plastic via compression fits to the existing copper coming out the floor??
    Was thinking this way there would be some flex to make up the additional 7.5mm each side?

    Hopefully this makes sense.

    Thank you

    Chris
     
  2. Pickwickpick

    Pickwickpick Plumber

    You could use a pipe bender to bend some copper pipe to make up the difference, would look nicer than plastic imo.
     
  3. Chris Bradder

    Chris Bradder New Member

    Thanks for the reply, only problem is I don’t have a pipe bender and working on a tight budget. I was going to use the chrome cover you can get.

    I was just unsure as to whether I could go from the fittings already there, to the rad but in plastic and pressure fits? If so, what would I need to buy exactly??

    Thanks again
     
  4. Craig Watson

    Craig Watson Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    You can use compression fittings coming out the floor and then go to plastic, it would look untidy though and as the pipe wouldn't be straight, the chrome wrap you mention wouldn't go round it all that well. Personally I would take the towel rail back and shop around, there will be towel rails that fit 425mm centres.
     
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  5. Chris Bradder

    Chris Bradder New Member

    Thanks for replying. I’ve looked everywhere for pipe measurements on the 450, 475 and 500 rads. None are 425mm centres.
     
  6. Riley

    Riley S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Go to an independent merchant they are out there
     
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  7. Craig Watson

    Craig Watson Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    The zehnder stellar spa has pipe centres of 420mm, that's only 2.5mm to make up either side, depending on how much pipe is coming out the floor, you should be able to easily manipulate the pipe to suit.
    Zehnder Stellar Spa Towel Rail Epicradiators.co.uk
     
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  8. justlead1

    justlead1 Trusted Plumber GSR

    Carefully chop the floor out to expose pipes for say 200 mm moving copper pipe 12.5 mm each should not be a problem.
     
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  9. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Any pics of the existing rad ?
     
  10. scott_d

    scott_d Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    One straight rad valve and one bent rad valve with a stump of pipe and an elbow
     
  11. Chris Bradder

    Chris Bradder New Member

    Hi, thanks for your replies. We have been thinking more about this and think we know will put a standard rad in there as opposed to a towel radiator. This I think (I’m not a plumber) would be a straight forward option wouldn’t it? Would I just have to change the valves from being straight to the right angle ones? If the pipes are 425mm centres, would I need to get say a 350mm wide rad and use telescopic valves to make up the difference?? Wasn’t sure how much to allow either side for the valves?
     
  12. Chris Bradder

    Chris Bradder New Member

    I can’t chip the floor away either, just had brand new floor tiles laid..
     
  13. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    pic?
     
  14. Riley

    Riley S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Don’t think you’ll get a 350 rad telescopic adjustable pieces look pony and leak
     
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