press or other?

[ShaunCorbs]

A lot of these were because the fittings hadn't been installed correctly, I.e. Not pushed in twice. Fortunately we now have the option of either copper or plastic, Both have their place in the 21st century.

what about mlcp or steel

 

[Best]

A lot of these were because the fittings hadn't been installed correctly, I.e. Not pushed in twice. Fortunately we now have the option of either copper or plastic, Both have their place in the 21st century. And Mlcp and steel.......

I know undoubtedly most push fit fittings coming off was because they weren't pushed full on, but there still has been the grippers not grabbing the pipe and also faulty fittings.
Then there's other more long term risks, like heat and uv rays and rodents.
Admittedly most of my jobs the people are not opting for less labour plastic plumbing, so I just stay with copper. Copper is so cheap anyhow. I had to purchase some Hepworth pipe and fittings to add to a job where much of it was plastic and it cost a lot more than copper.

 

[stani]

Sorry Best, I still use copper for perhaps 90% of my jobs, it's just sometimes plastic makes an awkward job just that little easier. Copper looks the part, I would only ever use plastic where it's not on show, I do however like plastic under floors where I don't have to lie on my back for ages trying to solder lengths of copper together. 1 long length and nail in clips, a Godsend when you get old.

 

[Best]

No offence taken Stani. I know exactly what you mean. Although I would add that using straight lengths of copper below floors can mean few supports/clips needed - so no need to get at entire area to clip, unlike plastic pipe. So what I mean is plastic installing has good and bad points, just like copper.
I never like the use of the word "awkward" to excuse doing jobs an easier way though. :grin:
If I thought that way I would use flexis everywhere.

 

[plumben]

For me its copper or nothing although i will use JG Speed fit if i have no other option or have to due to cost or run

 

[Killy Bing]

interesting

we have more or less replaced endeed/yorkies with copper press for the majority of the work we do

pushfit with mlcp mostly on new installs

press comes into its own on the larger sizes, even at the smaller domestic sizes we found the extra cost is covered by the time saved, letting us finish bigger jobs faster or smaller jobs with much less hastle.

where you cant get the gun in use tectite pushfit but thats usually a last resort, once you're into the swing of using it its rare you box yourself into a corner.

my observation is we have increased job turnover quite abit due to the move both comercial and domestic with time saved due to not having to deal with water in pipes, removing gas meters ect.

every method has its application!