Gas Engineers > What is the correct procedure attending a boiler breakdown?

[ShaunCorbs]

Seriously?

I suspect that the lack of comments from other RGI's is be cause you are a generally popular correspondent, whereas I am an infrequent visitor. If you were supporting my argument, and I yours, we would be inundated with responses.

How can you visually check a Gas Rate?

its not hard if you know if you dont

write the number down time then write the numbers down work it out from there or time it if imperial

or if you do know what kw should give you like

.10 is 30kw
.095 is 28kw
.08 is 24 kw
.05 is 15kw

 

[firemant]

its not hard if you know if you dont

write the number down time then write the numbers down work it out from there or time it if imperial

or if you do know what kw should give you like

.10 is 30kw
.095 is 28kw
.08 is 24 kw
.05 is 15kw

A bit of back tracking? What you are describing is actually Gas Rating. My personal preference, as it happens, to calculate (metric) is finish - start (2 mins) * 322.8 = Kw/hr.

However this farcical series of posts started when you stated:

i wouldnt do a

let by or tt
gas rate
working pressure
or fga test

i would do a visual check of the boiler
visual check of the case seals.

But now you are acknowledging that you would do a gas rate.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

A bit of back tracking? What you are describing is actually Gas Rating. My personal preference, as it happens, to calculate (metric) is finish - start (2 mins) * 322.8 = Kw/hr.

However this farcical series of posts started when you stated:

i wouldnt do a

let by or tt
gas rate
working pressure
or fga test

i would do a visual check of the boiler
visual check of the case seals.

But now you are acknowledging that you would do a gas rate.

only to keep you happy and end this debate as its going no where

if you look back you asked how you could do a visual gas rate which ive answered, didnt say i did one i just know the figures off my head

these days you could as you do it or use an app or get to know the figures gets to the same end

 

[firemant]

Okay. We can end this nonsense. As you keep twisting, and obviously do not comply with your obligations.

To the OP: be very careful about accepting advice from any forum, without double checking. This forum, in particular, is replete with guys who have little knowledge of the regulations.
It is full if inaccurate statements, for example, regarding the REQUIREMENTS for tightness testing, and the status, nature and requirements of Landlord Certs (CP12's).
Having said that, Shaun is normally one of the better ones.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

dont need to tt on land lord gas safety certificates

 

[Harvest Fields]

dont need to tt on land lord gas safety certificates

Which is absolutely terrible as it is a rented property and I believe it is more important to do it then when doing a service.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Also @ShaunCorbs & @firemant isnt what you are both describing a KW rating and not a gas rating. A gas rating for a 30kw boiler is about 3.2kw not 30kw? Or am I missing something here?

 

[firemant]

Also @ShaunCorbs & @firemant isnt what you are both describing a KW rating and not a gas rating. A gas rating for a 30kw boiler is about 3.2kw not 30kw? Or am I missing something here?

I don't quite understand your post, HF.
Probably strictly speaking, a gas rate would be measured in M3 but after saying Kw is not a gas rating, you go onto suggest it is.
A 30Kw boiler will be typically about 31/32Kw input, not 3.2. was that a typo?

 

[firemant]

Which is absolutely terrible as it is a rented property and I believe it is more important to do it then when doing a service.

You are probably correct. But the only time you HAVE to do a TT is after turning a meter back on. Not strictly necessary for a service. Unless directed so by the MIs.

 

[Harvest Fields]

I don't quite understand your post, HF.
Probably strictly speaking, a gas rate would be measured in M3 but after saying Kw is not a gas rating, you go onto suggest it is.
A 30Kw boiler will be typically about 31/32Kw input, not 3.2. was that a typo?

I mean that this is a gas rate mate