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Its all a farce mate half of them if they could go back in time would back leave just to get the victory points and further their careers.
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Lost all interest now , bought some shares other day when low
Well you'd better dump them before they dip properly.
It's a mess! If you have a couple of minutes, have a read.
Boris took the pin out of the grenade and ran away, not surprising as Cameron played a blinder at the end.
The negotiations will look something like this (substitute Johnson for whichever useless pos will stand as PM)
The leaving negotiations:
Boris Johnson: "We want access to the common market and pay you a lot less".
EU: "OK, you can pay us £200m a week"
Boris Johnson: "But that's more than what we pay you now".
EU:"Not according to your big red bus"
Boris Johnson: "Come on, we've all said things we didn't mean, to get elected"
EU: "Oh, now we're elected. Last week you said we were a dictatorship"
Boris Johnson: "Ok, but we won't allow free movement of people"
EU:"You will, or we will take away your access to common market and watch your financial services move to Paris and Dublin".
Boris Johnson: "But we won't follow EU regulations"
EU: "You will implement what we tell you, or see the last point"
Boris Johnson: "But I want a say in how these regulations are drafted and made"
EU: "So you basically want to be an EU member".
They are all scum, but him in particular: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UUYbxLri_Og
'I'm not equipped to be PM' ?*just one of Gove's many categorical denials | Politics | The Guardian
Borris' dump and run http://gu.com/p/4n9f4/fb
This is funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJdVDbw7hXM
Hypocrite much? Nigel Farage uses private company to reduce tax bill | Politics | The Guardian
This is the shape of things to come for the multi nationals based in the UK: Vodafone could move London HQ outside UK post-Brexit - BBC News
This is what you should be seeing/hearing on TV: [video]https://www.************/JeremyCorbynMP/videos/10154339597818872/[/video] but instead you are shown the childish crap the Murdoch wants you to see.
Boris took the pin out of the grenade and ran away, not surprising as Cameron played a blinder at the end.
The negotiations will look something like this (substitute Johnson for whichever useless pos will stand as PM)
The leaving negotiations:
Boris Johnson: "We want access to the common market and pay you a lot less".
EU: "OK, you can pay us £200m a week"
Boris Johnson: "But that's more than what we pay you now".
EU:"Not according to your big red bus"
Boris Johnson: "Come on, we've all said things we didn't mean, to get elected"
EU: "Oh, now we're elected. Last week you said we were a dictatorship"
Boris Johnson: "Ok, but we won't allow free movement of people"
EU:"You will, or we will take away your access to common market and watch your financial services move to Paris and Dublin".
Boris Johnson: "But we won't follow EU regulations"
EU: "You will implement what we tell you, or see the last point"
Boris Johnson: "But I want a say in how these regulations are drafted and made"
EU: "So you basically want to be an EU member".
They are all scum, but him in particular: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UUYbxLri_Og
'I'm not equipped to be PM' ?*just one of Gove's many categorical denials | Politics | The Guardian
Borris' dump and run http://gu.com/p/4n9f4/fb
This is funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJdVDbw7hXM
Hypocrite much? Nigel Farage uses private company to reduce tax bill | Politics | The Guardian
This is the shape of things to come for the multi nationals based in the UK: Vodafone could move London HQ outside UK post-Brexit - BBC News
This is what you should be seeing/hearing on TV: [video]https://www.************/JeremyCorbynMP/videos/10154339597818872/[/video] but instead you are shown the childish crap the Murdoch wants you to see.
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It's all to play for at the moment, IMO we should aim to form a larger customs / free trade area outwith the EU initially and then pick up the EU countries as they drop out also.
America is already chasing this , as are AUZ / NZ that cant be far off the EU's gdp just with those few.
We shouldn't be chasing what we had, as we know it wasn't great, and closer union is bound to come and sooner than later (http://www.tvp.info/25939587/europejskie-superpanstwo-zobacz-oryginalny-dokument) We should look to the future and make things better for ourselves by learning what doesn't work with the current model, which no matter how much you say change things from within was never going to happen.
America is already chasing this , as are AUZ / NZ that cant be far off the EU's gdp just with those few.
We shouldn't be chasing what we had, as we know it wasn't great, and closer union is bound to come and sooner than later (http://www.tvp.info/25939587/europejskie-superpanstwo-zobacz-oryginalny-dokument) We should look to the future and make things better for ourselves by learning what doesn't work with the current model, which no matter how much you say change things from within was never going to happen.
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he was right, none of them have done a proper job, there all academics with clean finger nails. even the soldier!!lol
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only if the England supporters club can for making everyone believe they can beat iceland!! same thing!
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Already up
So they should be, it hasn't happened yet.
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Ideal make even more then
What's to play for? There will be free access to the EU market without free movement of people. We already trade with 50 other countries directly, who should we aim for? If you're referring to TTIP then I'm afraid you're on very thin ice.
Don't dabble much do you.
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TTIP is obviously the EU's deal with the states, there are mutterings about getng a new deal pushed through for the UK on the QT.
Main problem with the TTIP is the input into legislation the US are pushing for, if we just want a customs / trade union none of that would be required.
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this is more intresting than plumbing!lol
We will accept TTIP or any form of it because we will be crying out for money into our economy. TTIP is NOT a good thing.
You're not wrong. His wobbly clapping scares me though.
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he was an orphan, perhaps had rickets? i like what he says for a con'
He can't be trusted, lies and will say anything as the Brexit campaign demonstrated. I can't believe he gets the time of day to be honest.
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Ray Stafford
So name me a politician who can be trusted?
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Should be on a beach by now then.
don't do beaches but nice hotels with quality pools
orchard and houses doing ok to by the way thanks
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tamz
One of the best things i've heard on brexit
BBC Radio 4 - A Point of View, On Brexit
BBC Radio 4 - A Point of View, On Brexit
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tamz
Talkinkpysh. He should go join the 45 but he will not renew his membership next year!
Been there with the bitterness.
We both voted out in the Scottish ref and Denise's birthday is the 18th Sept (referendum day, full of hope) and mine is the 19th (judgement day, dejected)
I truly felt the 19th September 2014 was the worst day of my life ever. Its a feeling i still can't quite explain and for the next 2 or 3 months i honestly wanted to kill anyone who voted No and fell out with friends of many years including members of my family.
Maybe some feel this way about this ref?
By Christmas i had calmed down and accepted things as they were.
Btw i agree with a lot of Sturgeons policies but i (and everyone i know) would never vote to leave the UK to join the Euros. She has miscalculated on that one. It will never happen.
At least we could come out with a few songs at the time. I've never heard a song from either Remain of Brexit
eg
Just transpose the words to suit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHaZ10brOWM
Corbyn for example. I know where you'll take it now, but that's not the question you asked.
The UK is/was a cornerstone of the EU, it does stand to reason that it will cause them and us problems.
We've all been had by Murdoch,Rothermere and Barclay brothers etc.
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Corbyn for example. I know where you'll take it now, but that's not the question you asked.
Corbyn can only be trusted to be a useless leader of the Labour Party who will make them unelectable. He is as two faced and many others.
Tbh, I actually now like the fact that he has exposed himself by becoming Labour leader.
He doesn't actually stand up for all the ordinary people, - just certain people
You couldn't be further from the truth but then you need to look for it to find it.
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So basically if no one agrees with you they are wrong.
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Corbyn is not very clear where he stands on so many things, so hard to get what the full truth is. I am never going to trust him because of his past, unless he apologises and admits he was wrong, but that will never happen.
Most politicians though are alike, - they state truths, half truths and then mix them up with lies, or omit some facts to make political gains. Ironically many politicians that tell the truth will not progress well.
How the hell have you come to that conclusion?
It's a sad state of affairs, politicians seem to have made a career out of lying. It's a shame many people were rebelling at this and austerity rather than the EU.
Still we've made out bed and now we've got to get on with it.
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So basically if no one agrees with you they are wrong.
Once again, how have you come to that ridiculous conclusion?
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Once again ???
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Haha dunno how that happened only wrote and posted it once
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Dotty
Read up on Corbyns associations with Sinn Fein/IRA.
The man neither has my vote nor my trust.
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not recognising the queen or anthem, or answering simple questions in politeness, is good enough for me
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tamz
Corbyn is a dick and even he knows it but he is ramming that dick up the rse of the Blairites just because he can.
We have in the past week seen not only a labour party rebellion (basically a coup supported/orchestrated by Alistair Campbell who miraculously appeared on every media channel as the shadow cabinet left one by one for maximum impact) but also an establishment dig at him (camerons jibe). 170 odd of his party openly rebelling and no one wants to be the first to put the boot in because they know they will loose.
I have no time for the man and disagree with just about everything he stands for but the alternative labour party is some uni graduate who went straight into politics and knows nothing about the working man or classes. Politicians are all just different shades of grey these days no matter what party they are in.
I wouldn't trust any of them to bring me back the correct change if i sent them to the shop.
As Bob sung, the times they are a changing.
Btw imo, if Gove wins with the tories we are fkd.
We have in the past week seen not only a labour party rebellion (basically a coup supported/orchestrated by Alistair Campbell who miraculously appeared on every media channel as the shadow cabinet left one by one for maximum impact) but also an establishment dig at him (camerons jibe). 170 odd of his party openly rebelling and no one wants to be the first to put the boot in because they know they will loose.
I have no time for the man and disagree with just about everything he stands for but the alternative labour party is some uni graduate who went straight into politics and knows nothing about the working man or classes. Politicians are all just different shades of grey these days no matter what party they are in.
I wouldn't trust any of them to bring me back the correct change if i sent them to the shop.
As Bob sung, the times they are a changing.
Btw imo, if Gove wins with the tories we are fkd.
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if your going to talk like that tam, then i am moving the thread based on 95% of the posters being pub members,
and on that basis it is a majority vote so, were in
and on that basis it is a majority vote so, were in
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tamz
Haha after i posted it i looked and thought fk lol
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