Woolwich killing

[R1CKY]

The death penalty should NOT come back. No human being has the power to decide who lives and dies. What should happen is that life sentences should be just that, LIFE, they should die in prison. The Government need to pull their fingers out of their arses and start deporting these radical preachers and seriously tighten up on immigration. They should take note of Australia and only let those in who have something to offer the country!

I feel sorry for the Muslim population in this country, they are a peaceful race and these extremists are just hiding behind it. I'm growing increasingly fed up with this country and I'm seriously thinking about leaving.

 

[Nostrum]

Hitler started a war, lets not confuse that with patriotism or sticking up for your own human rights. Multi culture society's are flawed by religious extremism at the moment on both sides of the fence. We are typically territorial beings like everything else on the planet, so why attempt to push for something that is so un-natural.

It's simple, if we can live together peacefully then fine. I we can't then split up or there will be blood spilt. That applies for every country in the world but NOT excluding our own,we seem to be the only one forced to bite own tongue and get on with it.
We are talking in some instances about people coming from mud huts and murder being a way of life for survival, to being expected to live in a massive city and do as your told, its not going to happen, and I'm not being racist, its fact.

i'm sick and tired about hearing how someone who's originates from half way around the world is not being allowed to express the human rights or opinions when it has a direct adverse effect on everyone else's quality of life. National health service is a prime example, pushed to the max because of an increased head count ( amongst other things )

and before anyone accuses me of being a racist, zip it. I don't hate the race, I hate the criminal activity you bring to this country. Keep your head down and pay your way and I've no problem whatsoever.

 

[Masood]

For what it's worth, guys, the vast majority of Muslims are shocked, horrified and heartbroken at the rise of Islamic extremism. I'm not a practising Muslim, haven't been for a very long time, but my whole family and community are still pretty devout.

Let's be absolutely clear about one thing. These animals are NOT Muslim. Nothing in the Qur'an, or the teachings of the Prophet encourage or condone the targeting of innocents, nor this form of vile behaviour.

But let's also be clear - extreme violence is not restricted to those who carry it out in the name of Islam. Japanese POW camps, Nazi concentration camps, kneecappings in Ireland, "Bolivian neckties", "Soweto necklaces", "special interrogation" in Guantanamo... the list is long and pretty f*&%ing horrendous.

My point is, no matter how angry this makes you, no matter how ghastly the actions of these animals, please don't let them win. As soon as people start feeling hatred towards a whole section of the population, they have won. They have got inside your head and planted the seeds of hatred and conflict. And that is what they want. Let's condemn the perpetrators, not whole sections of the community, who are as much the victims of this as you are. There will be repercussions, and a backlash. And those who will suffer those consequences will not be the cowardly *******s who crawl out of their sewer to do this kind of thing, but the innocents who get wrongly tarred with the same brush...

Peace..
Masood

 

[secret squirrel]

For what it's worth, guys, the vast majority of Muslims are shocked, horrified and heartbroken at the rise of Islamic extremism. I'm not a practising Muslim, haven't been for a very long time, but my whole family and community are still pretty devout.

Let's be absolutely clear about one thing. These animals are NOT Muslim. Nothing in the Qur'an, or the teachings of the Prophet encourage or condone the targeting of innocents, nor this form of vile behaviour.

But let's also be clear - extreme violence is not restricted to those who carry it out in the name of Islam. Japanese POW camps, Nazi concentration camps, kneecappings in Ireland, "Bolivian neckties", "Soweto necklaces", "special interrogation" in Guantanamo... the list is long and pretty f*&%ing horrendous.

My point is, no matter how angry this makes you, no matter how ghastly the actions of these animals, please don't let them win. As soon as people start feeling hatred towards a whole section of the population, they have won. They have got inside your head and planted the seeds of hatred and conflict. And that is what they want. Let's condemn the perpetrators, not whole sections of the community, who are as much the victims of this as you are. There will be repercussions, and a backlash. And those who will suffer those consequences will not be the cowardly *******s who crawl out of their sewer to do this kind of thing, but the innocents who get wrongly tarred with the same brush...

Peace..
Masood

I agree with you 100%, as angry as I am a knee jerk reaction is not the right thing.

 

[secret squirrel]

Why did it take the police take so long to get there, bet they were too busy stopping motorists to worry about some poor soldier dyeing in the street.

Unfortunately, not every police officer is armed therefore they need to wait for an armed response team which can be traveling quite some distance, sad but true.

 

[Nostrum]

The death penalty should NOT come back. No human being has the power to decide who lives and dies. What should happen is that life sentences should be just that, LIFE, they should die in prison.

if you use that philosophy then what gives one human the right to imprison another for their entire life? The decision is made by the culprit as soon as they decide to carry out an act such as this, theyve only got themselves to blame. Your only entitled the same rights of the victim, an eye for an eye and all that.

 

[Nostrum]

I agree masood , but bar a few uneducated or racist extremists ( as said before on both sides of the fence) most people will too.

I'd feel the same if it were a Brit murdering another human from different ethnic origin. In fact in this instance it would seem like the perpertrator had lived in the uk for some time (long enough to pick up the local accent) so I'm not assuming this man has come into the uk to practice this crime.

The point I was making above was that we are openly letting criminals through the borders with little power to stop them.

Youve got to want to kill first, then use a religious belief to excuse from the act.

 

[Killy Bing]

I'm disgusted with what my friends are posting to facebook, the photos and banners they are sharing.

I feel ashamed of my age group looking at it.

 

[cr0ft]

The animals responsible for this will end up in prison for many years, each costing the tax-payer around £40k per year. To me, with DNA forensics being able to 100% accurately prove someone was at the scene of a crime and/or holding the murder weapon etc there's no realistic argument against the death penalty imo.

This country is far far too soft.

 

[on31ll]

Croft for prime minister ?

 

[cr0ft]

LOL I could never be prime minister, I am not political enough to appeal to the masses!

 

[cr0ft]

If I was loaded I would start the common sense party though.

 

[cr0ft]

Just set up a Facebook page to see how far my idea goes. https://www.************/pages/Bring-Back-The-Death-Penalty/196062600543264?ref=ts&fref=ts . If, like me, you believe the UK should bring back the death penalty for murder then please like the page and mention it to friends and family. If it does go viral then maybe we can petition government to bring it back

 

[Veggie Dave]

I'm just so glad there aren't any white christians going around killing people for religious reasons, political reasons or just for fun...

an eye for an eye and all that.

I believe those are the exact words one of the two nutjobs in Woolwich used, too.

 

[Veggie Dave]

bring back the death penalty

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