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For some reason I can't edit my post. Before you edited yours I said it was fair comment. I'll take that back since you've gone down the "evil tyrant" route. We are all lucky in this country never to have really lived under one. The idea that she was one for not supporting industries that had refused to modernise for forty years by printing money endlessly, which trashed the rest of the economy is pretty lame imo. I'll leave it at that. Best of luck with your referendum, we all want the same result on that one at least.

The oly thing she fixed was the south!
 
350, 000 retraining packages? Lol So what were all these coal miners supposed to retrain as?

The same ones that are defending Thatchers policy against the working people in this country are the ones moaning about former bankers and clerks going on fast track courses and taking jobs off plumbers. Have they not got a right to retrain?

She only helped the affluent South of England and she definitely hated Scotland almost as much as we hated her in return.

And your right, we're praying for a YES vote because at least we'll get a government that we actually voted for and not Tory toffs who don't have a clue what its like to be working class.
 
I wonder whether she would have saved the banks. Or like the mines and steel industry destroyed whole towns. We will never know
 
I wonder whether she would have saved the banks. Or like the mines and steel industry destroyed whole towns. We will never know

Well since they were mostly Scottish banks, probably not if system 3 is correct. But then we probably never would have needed to save them if it hadn't been for Gordon Brown creating the fsa and his "light touch" regulation.
 
350, 000 retraining packages? Lol So what were all these coal miners supposed to retrain as?

The same ones that are defending Thatchers policy against the working people in this country are the ones moaning about former bankers and clerks going on fast track courses and taking jobs off plumbers. Have they not got a right to retrain?

She only helped the affluent South of England and she definitely hated Scotland almost as much as we hated her in return.

And your right, we're praying for a YES vote because at least we'll get a government that we actually voted for and not Tory toffs who don't have a clue what its like to be working class.

Maybe they could have built cars like they do in the midlands or the North East, or aircraft or electronics or I.T. or any of the hundreds of other industries that have started up and flourished in other parts of Britain. But hey it's much easier to just blame everyone else.
 
350, 000 retraining packages? Lol So what were all these coal miners supposed to retrain as?

The same ones that are defending Thatchers policy against the working people in this country are the ones moaning about former bankers and clerks going on fast track courses and taking jobs off plumbers. Have they not got a right to retrain?

She only helped the affluent South of England and she definitely hated Scotland almost as much as we hated her in return.

And your right, we're praying for a YES vote because at least we'll get a government that we actually voted for and not Tory toffs who don't have a clue what its like to be working class.

If sorry when Scotland vote yes I might emigrate there! Especially if they do what Iceland did
 
If sorry when Scotland vote yes I might emigrate there! Especially if they do what Iceland did

Emigrate? Have you seen the restrictions on immigration if the yes vote goes through. You'd have more chance of getting into North Korea.
 
Well since they were mostly Scottish banks, probably not if system 3 is correct. But then we probably never would have needed to save them if it hadn't been for Gordon Brown creating the fsa and his "light touch" regulation.
Wrong. Northern Rock started the ball rolling and the RBS is owned by Nat West an English bank as are the majority of bailed out banks.

Both Brown and Blair were using Thatcherite policies and embraced her in the guise of New Labour.
 
what did iceland do???

You remember hearing in the news when everything went **** up that they where not paying back money owed to our banks?

Well what wasn't reported was the fact the Icelandic people stuck 2 fingers up to Europe, there goverment and the too big to fail banks when told they would have to bail out the banks.

So instead of bearing the load of greedy bankers they peacefully overthrew the government rewrote the constitution sent the banks packing and are living happily ever after.

Funny how a government was overthrown so close and not a single mention on the news!


Good luck Scotland you will be better off out of this dictatorship we call a democracy.
 
Wrong. Northern Rock started the ball rolling and the RBS is owned by Nat West an English bank as are the majority of bailed out banks.

Both Brown and Blair were using Thatcherite policies and embraced her in the guise of New Labour.

No they weren't. Lots of people will say that becuase they would like that to be true. Brown completely re structured the banking regulator, with Ed Balls help. They took regulation away from the bank of England who had done it successfully for three hundred years and basically told the bankers to look after themselves. The massive injection of loose money injected into the economy is pretty much the exact opposite of Thatchers handbag economics of "you can only spend what you earn". Loads of people like to try and blame Thatcher for the banks because they like to blame everything on her. Her big bang was a different story though.
And isn't it funny that Alex Salmond was claiming HBOS and RBS were Scotlands great success story, until the British tax payer bailed them out
 
i fail to see to how any politician from the last half century can be seen or thought of with any affection or nostalgia whatsoever from any political party.
the expenses scandal shows what utter contempt all politicians from all sides have for us and our money.

and bailing out banks what a crock of shiiiite they should have been left to fail.
human civilisation has been going for thousands of years, a few banks failing wouldnt stop us. would be good to sort the wheat from chaff.
i also wish the europeans would stop putting off the inevitable and cast out those countries from the euro that shouldnt have been in it in the first place.

yes there might be a financial meltdown but only for the elite who stand to lose their precious pennies that they guard like a dog guarding its bone. life goes on there just delaying the inevitable.
 
I get the feeling that I might be in a minority here, but if you grew up in the 70's, whatever class you were, you might remember the alternative?

Powercuts, the 3 day week, strikes all the time, rampant inflation, rubbish piling up the streets, the chancellor having to go to the IMF with a begging bowl because the country couldn't pay its bills.

Remember she was elected 3 times, and never lost an election. I'm not a big fan of labelling people with some "class" tag, but large numbers of "working class" people (whatever that means) voted for her over and over again.

She was also the last politician that I can remember who actually said what she believed. Agree or disagree, what you saw was what you got. We could do with a bit more of that.

So I'll be wearing a black tie tomorrow, and if anyone doesn't like it, they can kiss my @55.

She was an amazing woman and the best prime minister in my time without a doubt imho
 
Wrong. Northern Rock started the ball rolling and the RBS is owned by Nat West an English bank as are the majority of bailed out banks.

Both Brown and Blair were using Thatcherite policies and embraced her in the guise of New Labour.

wrong wrong wrong.

Natwest is PART of the RBS group. Yet another bit of SNP misinformation! :p
 
wrong wrong wrong.

Natwest is PART of the RBS group. Yet another bit of SNP misinformation! :p
Both have headquarters in London. The bulk of the bank bailouts went on English based banks not Scottish.

Not SNP misinformation. I live here, breathe the air and know what is going on here in my own country. I could easily spend all night putting the misinformation that you've weaned from the NO campaign and it's blood money funded non Scottish benefactors.
 
Both have headquarters in London. The bulk of the bank bailouts went on English based banks not Scottish.

Not SNP misinformation. I live here, breathe the air and know what is going on here in my own country. I could easily spend all night putting the misinformation that you've weaned from the NO campaign and it's blood money funded non Scottish benefactors.

We are spoonfed bulk**** on a daily basis! As i say no mention of iceland on the news no mention of bulgaria doing a similar thing!
 
Both have headquarters in London. The bulk of the bank bailouts went on English based banks not Scottish.

Not SNP misinformation. I live here, breathe the air and know what is going on here in my own country. I could easily spend all night putting the misinformation that you've weaned from the NO campaign and it's blood money funded non Scottish benefactors.
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So the Scottish people running the no campaigns are suddenly English? What will happen IF that tosspot salmond wins? Would they be deported?
 
I'd just like to add that im not defending thatcher I don't know nearly enough about it all to have a fair or unbiased opinion, I'm too young and it seems to 'Southern'.
just seems to me a lot of people dislike her because its the done thing,and blame her for being poor in the same way that lazy scumbags who sit on benefits for life blame 'foreigners' for not being able to get a job!
 
I'd just like to add that im not defending thatcher I don't know nearly enough about it all to have a fair or unbiased opinion, I'm too young and it seems to 'Southern'.
just seems to me a lot of people dislike her because its the done thing,and blame her for being poor in the same way that lazy scumbags who sit on benefits for life blame 'foreigners' for not being able to get a job!

You will have to have lived under her reign to understand the vitriol felt towards her
 
You will have to have lived under her reign to understand the vitriol felt towards her
Agreed. Although I know a lot of people who did (northern and southern) and they are in the majority that they like her. Again though its not really fair for me to comment without knowing fark all about it
 
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