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Is this likely to be a solvent weld elbow?? Sorry for the bad picture..

I have to replace the pan connector but not seen this kind of elbow before so just sussing what I need.
 
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yea looks like sw bet there is no 4" pipe on the collar thats why its leaking
 
Are there no elbow pan connectors but with a long stem from the pan going to an elbow with a short male connector for the 4 inch stack...??? They all seem to be the other way...
 
Are there no elbow pan connectors but with a long stem from the pan going to an elbow with a short male connector for the 4 inch stack...??? They all seem to be the other way...

extended bent pan connector and how long to looking for?
 
sorry imeant to say there are two sizes of bent pan con try the macalpine book to get dimensions the pciture looks like a pan con into an old terain pan connector which will work if you put a bit of 4 inch onto the second one
 
extended bent pan connector and how long to looking for?

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I can only find these.. I need it the other way around..

Basically as long as the elbow plus a few inches
 
I'm think I'm just gonna hack off the sw elbow at the base and stick in a flexi as I don't think the extended inlet pan connector is quite long enough... it only gives me 80mm for the inlet
 
I'm think I'm just gonna hack off the sw elbow at the base and stick in a flexi as I don't think the extended inlet pan connector is quite long enough... it only gives me 80mm for the inlet

can you leave the elbow in ? (split?)
 
There isn't much room between the elbow and the pan, def not enough to weld some 4inch pipe in place

straight pan connector? or are you changing the bog
 
No the pan is staying.. Yeah I'm gonna try a straight first, if that fails I'll go with plan b

just glue enough 4" in to fit flush with the elbow if there non there
 
Is this likely to be a solvent weld elbow?? Sorry for the bad picture..

I have to replace the pan connector but not seen this kind of elbow before so just sussing what I need.

If I am not mistaken it is a Terrain 102.4.5 Bent (or 125.4.5 straight) See Page 13. It is a single rubber seal pan con & someone has just stuffed another straight con directly into it which is not allowing the fins to seal. Suggest removing the black rubber seal, it just pulls off, buy an extension multikwik, push down inside so it seals in the inner pipe. Then cut to length & re-fit the standard pan con you have already fitted. (Say No to Flexi's) http://www.plumbcenter.co.uk/wcssto...ng.all/hu/re/Polypipe_TerrainS&W_Brochure.pdf
 
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So the socket of the elbow is 5 1/4 inch... The black rubber seal has gone. Merchant suggested putting a fernco reducer over the elbow socket, some 4 inch in the other end and the straight pan connector.. isn't there anything that'll go into the elbow socket?
 
So the socket of the elbow is 5 1/4 inch... The black rubber seal has gone. Merchant suggested putting a fernco reducer over the elbow socket, some 4 inch in the other end and the straight pan connector.. isn't there anything that'll go into the elbow socket?

dia?
 
you 1000% sure (taken the bog out and checked? and is it a block of flats?
Took toilet out to remove pan connector as no give.. measure it then. Yup, block of flats. Discharge pipe is 4 inch
 
Took toilet out to remove pan connector as no give.. measure it then. Yup, block of flats. Discharge pipe is 4 inch

central stack and sorry to say if the elbow is 5.25 your only option is a fernco reducer sorry to say :(
 
central stack and sorry to say if the elbow is 5.25 your only option is a fernco reducer sorry to say :(
Gutted, they're ugly as hell and it'll fix to the outside of the elbow :( I also don't have access to the entire stack as half of it's hidden behind tiles!
 
Gutted, they're ugly as hell and it'll fix to the outside of the elbow :( I also don't have access to the entire stack as half of it's hidden behind tiles!

they are but have you got any white rubber paint?
 
No, no, no ……. You can still buy replacement rubber seals for them (or you can come & collect one from me garage) then push a bit of 110mm soil into it cut to the required length with the Multikwik in the end.

or as socket is 133mm dia you could use a caulking bush 132.4 page 12, caulk it into the socket to reduce it back down to 110mm.

Do not use a bit of rubber & a jubilee clip (Fernco) PLEASE!!!!
 
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