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Sorry Guys,
I didn't get to finish what I wanted to say due to a force of nature.
Massive thunderstorm - power outage, screaming children and... my darling wife....????
What part of Australia? Wifes sister and husband live near Hervey Bay, one niece lives in Brisbane and the other on the Gold Coast.
Ray,
In response to you post...I would have to say that is the most derogatory post towards plumbers I have seen on this forum.
I honestly thought you had a higher opinion of Plumbers.
I also thought that promoting the qualifications and skills of plumbers might help you and the organisation you work for ( or own? ).
'Trade only' I can only gather from your post that means anyone walking through the door.
Would it not be beneficial to you and the company to promote and elevate the profile of Plumbers?
You mention 'Joe Public' and his thoughts.
Well 'Joe Public' can kiss me where the sun don't shine.
Joe Public can do what he wants, but over here he does plumbing work - in any form - and stuffs up, he will not have insurance cover and be prosecuted.
I hope I have interpreted you post wrong, because if I was one of you regulars, I would show you the same disregard as you have shown the Plumbing Industry.
I think your post is demeaning to the Trade and profession.
Oz Plumber
Ray,
In response to you post...I would have to say that is the most derogatory post towards plumbers I have seen on this forum.
I honestly thought you had a higher opinion of Plumbers.
I also thought that promoting the qualifications and skills of plumbers might help you and the organisation you work for ( or own? ).
'Trade only' I can only gather from your post that means anyone walking through the door.
Would it not be beneficial to you and the company to promote and elevate the profile of Plumbers?
You mention 'Joe Public' and his thoughts.
Well 'Joe Public' can kiss me where the sun don't shine.
Joe Public can do what he wants, but over here he does plumbing work - in any form - and stuffs up, he will not have insurance cover and be prosecuted.
I hope I have interpreted you post wrong, because if I was one of you regulars, I would show you the same disregard as you have shown the Plumbing Industry.
I think your post is demeaning to the Trade and profession.
Oz Plumber
Be nice if the state did actually intervene? GS have no backbone. Unless your registered they ask you to join and that's it. HSE got no money for investigations or prescriptions so the just make leaflets and smile.
Be nice if the state did actually intervene? GS have no backbone. Unless your registered they ask you to join and that's it. HSE got no money for investigations or prescriptions so the just make leaflets and smile.
easiest form of control is to prohibit sale of oil/gas items to unregistered persons, but that would upset big companies ie BnQ etc and they have a large voice in government, we don't despite what ciphe etc say
what gas safe needs is some powers to investigate without being called inView attachment 18452they could start with this beauty
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I hear this a lot, but it isn't true. It would be very far from easy.
All gas appliances have been bought and sold at least once before an engineer gets his hands on it. In many cases they have been sold three times or more. So you have to register AND regulate every merchant, showroom, distributor etc. I estimate that there are, on average, probably 1.5 to 2 sales in the supply chain for every 1 sale of the sort that you think would be "easy" to regulate.
Secondly, its not B&Q that are selling gas appliances in volume to unregistered people. Truly retail sales of gas appliances are trivially small. Its plumb centre, grahams, and indeed us who are selling to unregistered purchasers. Millions of appliances are bought every year by perfectly legitimate buyers - hospitals, housing associations, councils, governement departments, schools, hotel chains, big builders etc, who wouldn't dream of fitting it illegally, but don't want to be forced to pay the installers mark up - and why should they? I can see why registered engineers would like to monopolise those sales, but it would just be rent-seeking of the worst possible kind.
Setting up a point-of-sale regulatory system would be neither cheap nor easy. And it wouldn't stop some registered but irresponsible fitter from selling them out of the back of his van for a tenner mark up.
By far the cheapest and easiest thing would be to properly prosecute the next 50 or so "hall of shame" cases, and dole out a bit of high-profile jail time
It would require a picture on it as you could hand yours to a mate to us otherwise
its simple ray no card no sale, screwfix manage it ok, mark ups are negotiable like everything and thats no excuse in my simple mind.
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