Is this legal?

[Nas]

Ive been called to fit a gas fire in a house the the owner is having his upstairs chimney breast removed. But he's still planning keeping the chimney breast downstairs, with a flue liner. He wants the flue liner to come out of the side wall of the house level with where the chimney breast ends. Is This allowed??. I've probably not explained it too well so I've attached a diagram to try and explain?
I've tried to find the answer in my books to no avail

 

[arran197]

Erm, NO!

 

[arran197]

A flue liner should only be used for that, lining a flue brick chimney. Secondly, if it needs a flue liner it will be open flued, which means the flue must be vertical. You are only allowed a bend of 45 degrees.

 

[nysk2008]

looking at your diagram I know firms like kindel do a power flue range that may suit your install and help you get round the probs you are coming up against, im a new GS engineer so sorry if Ive got this wrong

 

[gassafe]

If he does have the work done il look out for the "Carbon monoxide" fatality story in my next gas installer magazine = o

 

[gasmarc]

Defo a no no imho , I would pass on gas fires If you would ever consider doing that, 2 90 degree bends does that not ring a bell

 

[Nas]

looking at your diagram I know firms like kindel do a power flue range that may suit your install and help you get round the probs you are coming up against, im a new GS engineer so sorry if Ive got this wrong

I'm a newly GS registered as well. so wanted some experienced guidance.

 

[arran197]

You could block up the chimney and fit a flueless, providing you can get the ventilation that is required. Not sure even a balanced flue fire would be suitable, you would have to drill a huge hole in the back of the builders opening and I'm not even sure the MI would allow one to be fitted with the flue passing through such a large void. Best thing would be either a flue less or electric.

 

[Nas]

Defo a no no imho , I would pass on gas fires If you would ever consider doing that, 2 90 degree bends does that not ring a bell

Thats just my diagram. There is in 1 bend at the top. The bottom I'm assuming he would want a connecting to the top of a flue box so there would be no bend there

 

[Nas]

Not sure why he doesn't take the breast out downstairs and has a balanced flue fitted in the same position.

 

[gasmarc]

I would not touch a flue less fire imho I would pass on the job myself. I presume the job is all above board with the local council involved , you wouldnt want a chimney stack falling on your head

 

[REDSAW]

on your head be it!.

 

[AWheating]

i would recommend either a balanced flue fire if one can be fitted or an electric fire. If i remember correctly there was a picture in the corgi mag a few years ago of a flue liner installed exactly the same as that drawing.

 

[Backboiler]

I thought this sub forum was intended for GSR engineers only. Anyone who has invested in the ACS ought to know that this is an unsafe situation. We could do without these bizzare questions

 

[Steve @ TheHeatingHub]

this isn't the sub forum Alan+

But I'd have to agree some crazy questions on this forum and I'm guessing those asking are not in fact GSR'd or they would be asking in the correct forum(the one at the top) I personally think that the new qualified guys have little to no respect of Gas and the dangers that go with it. I'm sure there is a rise in the last 2years of death of carbon monoxide related deaths although not sure where I read that but would either be in the GSR mag or the installer mag as the only thing I read hehe