Euro clips HELP!!

[yogavo]

I'm doing my first plumbing job & I've been asked to run pipes over head & then down a wall to a radiator. The 15mm copper pipes have to be clipped to the ceiling using euroclips, however I have no idea of how to actually make the rods stay in the ceiling. Please help!!

 

[lbp plg & htg]

threaded bar and rawbolts.

 

[yogavo]

I've got the threaded rods & the plugs, but what kind of hole do I make to keep the plug & ultimately the rod & clip from falling?

 

[nicro3]

What is the ceiling made of?

 

[GasmanxxxR1]

Ideally find a joist and use that

 

[yogavo]

Brick/breeze block...

 

[lbp plg & htg]

drill the hole, insert the rawbolt - send it home with the setting tool which splays the edge then thread bar into.

 

[yogavo]

Setting tool? What does that look like?

 

[nysk2008]

you could get a male back plate and female munsons? or red heads and studding

 

[nysk2008]

you can sometimes get away with using an old philips screwdriver as a setting tool but dont always work

 

[nysk2008]

setting tool

 

[nicro3]

Apart from studding and clips were you given any thing else?What size are the rawlplugs?

 

[lbp plg & htg]

setting tool

There it is!

 

[yogavo]

I've been given everything I need, however the ceiling is very thin & I manage to drill through very quickly, I don't know how deep or what size drill bit to use. I'm really stuck and getting very annoyed with myself

 

[nysk2008]

Of the top of my head its a 12mm bit for the ancor but if your only running 1/2" or 3/4" pipe can you just use brown raw plus (7/8mm drill bit)

 

[nicro3]

What colour rawlplugs?

 

[nysk2008]

how u getting on fella?

 

[yogavo]

How am I getting on? Well I decided to stop drilling holes in the ceiling & started drilling holes in the wall, there was solid brick which meant I could drill deeper & put those rodding plugs (no sure what to call them) into the wall. I've basically got to find solid brick in the ceiling in order to get the plugs to stay in. There are a number of holes where the previous building has tried to find such bricks & he appears to have been successful, so successful in fact, that's he's gone on holiday, which is why I am here. I appreciate everyone's help though.

 

[REDSAW]

but what kind of hole do I make to keep the plug & ultimately the rod & clip from falling?

try the round type ones?.lol.lmfao

 

[mountainman]

Interesting thread this.

Difficult for me to imagine anyone installing pipework not knowing how pipe fixings work.
I could be wrong though.

Incidentally, I've never encountered a brick/breeze block ceiling.

 

[PlumbBobBob]

i imagine it would be block and beam forming the ceiling

 

[hammers4spanner]

i agree with mountainman probably not the best idea to be fitting when you have no concept of bracketry

 

[yogavo]

i imagine it would be block and beam forming the ceiling

Thats what it is. I understand how the clips work. I'm just completely baffled as to how to make them work when I can't find a beam inside the ceiling. I've basically got to keep drilling holes until I find a beam.

 

[kay-jay]

If its a plaster finish can you not buy or borrow a detector for studs? Not brilliant but will certainly get you close to a beam at least and stop the ceiling looking like a swiss cheese

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[kay-jay]

P.s if all else fails only use a 1-2mm drill to help you find a beam rather than hacking great 12 mm holes everywhere....

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[yogavo]

P.s if all else fails only use a 1-2mm drill to help you find a beam rather than hacking great 12 mm holes everywhere....

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I think that's probably the best idea.

 

[glenno1]

You could try cavity wall fixings

 

[kozak1968]

What's wrong with female munsen back plates then screw the m10 studding into them. The back plates have 2 screw holes in so you can use screws and plugs