CMS Property management

[roguetrader]

Hi all, has anyone been contacted from CMS property management a Scottish company, they are promising all the same things as NUS did, there asking for 2k plus vat for 500 properties to look after there servicing and call outs. Just another scam I don't know how they get away with it.

 

[Barry98]

Cos one sucker a month pays there wages

 

[negas]

more chance of getting half a million quid from a Nigerian prince

 

[IDCHAPPY]

How do folk fall for it though? :/

 

[calinfila]

I had an email from them not long ago, went to SPAM like my account knew that is no good:33:

 

[kirkgas]

I only pay for drink, never for work

 

[happyflyer]

more chance of getting half a million quid from a Nigerian prince

Come to think of it, one just left me a fortune if I send £1000.00 :sunny:

 

[RoryD]

Just had a tear up with "Steven" from CMS. Told him to stop sending me mails. explained that the word is out about them. "Steven" replied that's just plumbers who have no work and spend all their time on forums with nothing better to do!! Didn't like him.... so I told him to go and commit a very difficult act on himself. He in turn told me to attempt the same!!?? Won't bore you with the details, we did start at a very base level. perhaps if anyone would like to talk to steven I can pass his number on

 

[IDCHAPPY]

Just had a tear up with "Steven" from CMS. Told him to stop sending me mails. explained that the word is out about them. "Steven" replied that's just plumbers who have no work and spend all their time on forums with nothing better to do!! Didn't like him.... so I told him to go and commit a very difficult act on himself. He in turn told me to attempt the same!!?? Won't bore you with the details, we did start at a very base level. perhaps if anyone would like to talk to steven I can pass his number on

Thanks for the lovely offer mate but if I wanted to talk to shyte I'd have a blether with my own one in the toilet :lol:

 

[Ray Stafford]

if anyone would like to talk to steven I can pass his number on

Perhaps you could pass his number to those thoughtful people who want to help me reclaim the missold PPI insurance which I never bought on the loan that I never took out.

 

[SimonG]

Im sure theres many a spot we could load up Stevens number!

 

[rpm]

Could we all ring Stevens number within a 3hr window on the same day?
Witheld numbers of course :89::89::89::89::89:

 

[kris]

That sounds good as ive had these emails and its crazy and a pitty that some folks get sucked in , CMS here we come,,

 

[smhstu]

Or put an advert on gumtree for 50 hardcore adult mags and some soild knicker £10 Ono with his number attached.
we did this years ago to one of our mates ( the advert was in loot, no inter web then) his house where he lived with his parents, phone rang for months!

 

[Pipe butcher]

I have been approached by them and agree it must be too good to be true.
but what exactly is the scam?

 

[Ermintrude]

You do work and don't get paid. You pay them for leads and there are none....

 

[Pipe butcher]

You do work and don't get paid. You pay them for leads and there are none....

That was my first thought, but in the contract it guarantees 500 properties a year and if they fail to deliver you get your 2k back. Now I know they probably would try not to give you the money back but that would put them in breach of contract which you could chase through the small claims court. Aggro I know but is it worth their while to get in that situation in the first place? There are only so many times they can get away with it, so is it then worth it for them?
It would be interesting to find somebody out there who has actually gone through with it and what their experience was.
That is something that don't appear to be pushing, testimonials from existing contractors which any marketing person will tell you is the most powerful selling tool you can have.
i think at the moment unless somebody can tell me what the actual scam is and back it up in some way then I am going to ask them to provide me with the names and contact details of some existing contractors that I can verify and talk to myself even to the point of visiting them at their premises.
it will be interesting to see what transpires and I will of course let you know.
Don't get me wrong I am not here to defend them I am very sceptical myself I just would like something more solid either way than just knee jerk reactions.

 

[gasmanrob]

You do work and don't get paid. You pay them for leads and there are none....

Im im yet to hear of anyone getting any work just people handing over money and never hearing from them again

 

[Ermintrude]

They sometimes entice you in with one job then they need to get u on the books for more work, but will have to wait until April or pay £2500 admin charge?

 

[galaxy_plumbing]

promise of few hundreds properties to hundreds of people, they must control half of the Uk property market now

 

[RoryD]

That was my first thought, but in the contract it guarantees 500 properties a year and if they fail to deliver you get your 2k back. Now I know they probably would try not to give you the money back but that would put them in breach of contract which you could chase through the small claims court. Aggro I know but is it worth their while to get in that situation in the first place? There are only so many times they can get away with it, so is it then worth it for them?
It would be interesting to find somebody out there who has actually gone through with it and what their experience was.
That is something that don't appear to be pushing, testimonials from existing contractors which any marketing person will tell you is the most powerful selling tool you can have.
i think at the moment unless somebody can tell me what the actual scam is and back it up in some way then I am going to ask them to provide me with the names and contact details of some existing contractors that I can verify and talk to myself even to the point of visiting them at their premises.
it will be interesting to see what transpires and I will of course let you know.
Don't get me wrong I am not here to defend them I am very sceptical myself I just would like something more solid either way than just knee jerk reactions.

Well I see you're a new comer mate so right on cue! No one is remotely interested in being rumped by these people. The scam will come when you try to pick your money up. Be wary of those bearing gifts.

 

[SimonG]

That was my first thought, but in the contract it guarantees 500 properties a year and if they fail to deliver you get your 2k back. Now I know they probably would try not to give you the money back but that would put them in breach of contract which you could chase through the small claims court. Aggro I know but is it worth their while to get in that situation in the first place? There are only so many times they can get away with it, so is it then worth it for them?
It would be interesting to find somebody out there who has actually gone through with it and what their experience was.
That is something that don't appear to be pushing, testimonials from existing contractors which any marketing person will tell you is the most powerful selling tool you can have.
i think at the moment unless somebody can tell me what the actual scam is and back it up in some way then I am going to ask them to provide me with the names and contact details of some existing contractors that I can verify and talk to myself even to the point of visiting them at their premises.
it will be interesting to see what transpires and I will of course let you know.
Don't get me wrong I am not here to defend them I am very sceptical myself I just would like something more solid either way than just knee jerk reactions.

Seriously.

Long history of these companies sending emails, texts with exactly the same offer.

Nice two starting posts

To all those that dont work or are involved with these companies AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE - PAY THEM MONEY AT YOUR PERIL you wont see it again.

 

[Ray Stafford]

That was my first thought, but in the contract it guarantees 500 properties a year and if they fail to deliver you get your 2k back. Now I know they probably would try not to give you the money back but that would put them in breach of contract which you could chase through the small claims court. Aggro I know but is it worth their while to get in that situation in the first place?

Because by the time the 1st case actually comes to court, they have make off with several dozen x £2000.

There are only so many times they can get away with it, so is it then worth it for them?

You would think so, but the very fact that you are here asking the question proves that they can keep getting away with it. These scams have been reported on this forum more or less since it first opened. Often the directors names of the various firms are disconcertingly similar.

It would be interesting to find somebody out there who has actually gone through with it and what their experience was.

If you use the search facility on this site, you will find several heart-breaking stories of people who have fallen for it. And they are just the ones who aren't so embarrassed that they keep schtum.

it will be interesting to see what transpires and I will of course let you know.

Yes it will, in a watching-a-car-crash-can't-look-away kind of way.

Don't get me wrong I am not here to defend them I am very sceptical myself I just would like something more solid either way than just knee jerk reactions.

Those guys who have been on the forum for a few years aren't reacting with knee-jerks - they will have read the same threads.

 

[Ray Stafford]

Just the first thread that I found by searching "scam" and "embarrassed".

 

[Ray Stafford]

And here's another that I found searching for CMS

 

[gavin2583]

wish i had seen this a few months ago feeling very stupid!!! and skint!!!

 

[Ermintrude]

You didn't ?

 

[Dotty]

I think he did!

 

[lame plumber]

daft bugger

 

[gavin2583]

I did but they may have come across the wrong person this time company director has been found along with the 3 different address they have. A family member who is a solicitor is already on the case

 

[Dotty]

I did but they may have come across the wrong person this time company director has been found along with the 3 different address they have. A family member who is a solicitor is already on the case

I hope you're right Gavin, I sincerely do.

 

[Ermintrude]

You could have bought all this

 

[stevetheplumber]

people like these eat county court and small claims judgements for lunchas ray says by the time it got near a court the company is folded and youll find the names on the directors list will be a couple of hard ups who were recruited down the pub
long firms have been running for ever

 

[CES]

That was my first thought, but in the contract it guarantees 500 properties a year and if they fail to deliver you get your 2k back. Now I know they probably would try not to give you the money back but that would put them in breach of contract which you could chase through the small claims court. Aggro I know but is it worth their while to get in that situation in the first place? There are only so many times they can get away with it, so is it then worth it for them?
It would be interesting to find somebody out there who has actually gone through with it and what their experience was.
That is something that don't appear to be pushing, testimonials from existing contractors which any marketing person will tell you is the most powerful selling tool you can have.
i think at the moment unless somebody can tell me what the actual scam is and back it up in some way then I am going to ask them to provide me with the names and contact details of some existing contractors that I can verify and talk to myself even to the point of visiting them at their premises.
it will be interesting to see what transpires and I will of course let you know.
Don't get me wrong I am not here to defend them I am very sceptical myself I just would like something more solid either way than just knee jerk reactions.

The last time I saw references on the website of a very similar company, they turned out to be false. If you really need to have the scam explained and "backed up" in whatever way then I would guess you are new to either the trade or self employment? seriously consider your employment status as you won't last long in this trade if you fall for this, especially when it's been a hot topic for the last few years.

 

[SimonG]

Why would anybody pay? I suppose its eay to say when you have heard a few of these.

As for getting your money back, i think the best way is to forget the legal routes and get yourself a gorilla and a pair of bolt cutters. Put the two together and send them round to one of the addresses. I'm sure you will get a refund if the gorilla has the directors nads in a tight grip with the bolt cutters.

Other than that I think its a lesson learnt the hard way.