City and Guilds Leve 2 (6129) Plumbing Studies - Past Papers

[fuzzy]

the awarding body for the nvq is city and guilds

 

[moleman]

Past Papers can be found at:
Smart Screen > Login > Certificate in Basic Plumbing Studies VRQ L2 - Then select 'Sample questions (Flash)' under each module.

Thanks! Hoped we'd get there in the end

 

[desrob]

please ask your tutor what the future is regarding the course you are doing ,dont let him fob you off with this will count for the new one coming in ,nothing is transferable,please ask.

 

[andyg0507]

the 6129 is still running, you have to apply for your nvq before the 31st of december and then you've got 2 years to complete it, otherwise you will have to start the new diploma from scratch the following year.

 

[moleman]

PLEASE GOD STOP!

This is turning into the worst kind of tabloid crap I've ever read!!!

I didn't bother replying to these posts because I don't want to get embroiled into a pointless discussion mistaking opinion for fact, unless anyone on this forum is Michael Gove, I don't think anyone is qualified to start spreading rumours about the value of the 6129.

I'm not bothered about letters after my name, it sounds like bragging but I've got qualifications coming out of my proverbial including 2 University degrees - WHAT ACRONYM FOLLOWS THE QUALIFICATION DOSN'T MATTER, it’s what you learn, not what it’s called.

No college would in ANY WAY would stop a course mid-way, the suggestion is mental. My qualification for saying this - I worked in a University for 7 years, My wife is a College Administrator, my Mother-in-law is a college lecturer. I've been in, around, beside and through so many education systems in this country, I know a huge amount about all stages from recruitment, admissions, support, graduation and work based learning.

The reason I started the 6129 is because I wanted training, practice and advice about how to be a plumber. On top of that you need to be motivated yourself, you need to volunteer to do work outside of the workshop, you've got to ask questions, you've got to be objective and look at your work without pride and be able to be critical. If you can do all these things you'll be a fine plumber.


I mention all this not for the people who have posted highly dubious opinions on this post, but for the people reading this who may be on this course, considering this course or in any way contemplating a class room based trade education. PLEASE consult someone who knows that facts, either in a college or careers adviser service, not someone on the internet.

I’m unsubscribing from this forum now because it’s giving me a headache.

 

[fuzzy]

good post,but see the thread on TCs going and youll see it is being regulated and sorted out, we cannot go back and change whats been done though, 48,000 trained in TC only!!!!!!!!!!! they are here to stay

 

[fuzzy]

PLEASE GOD STOP!

This is turning into the worst kind of tabloid crap I've ever read!!!

I didn't bother replying to these posts because I don't want to get embroiled into a pointless discussion mistaking opinion for fact, unless anyone on this forum is Michael Gove, I don't think anyone is qualified to start spreading rumours about the value of the 6129.

I'm not bothered about letters after my name, it sounds like bragging but I've got qualifications coming out of my proverbial including 2 University degrees - WHAT ACRONYM FOLLOWS THE QUALIFICATION DOSN'T MATTER, it’s what you learn, not what it’s called.

No college would in ANY WAY would stop a course mid-way, the suggestion is mental. My qualification for saying this - I worked in a University for 7 years, My wife is a College Administrator, my Mother-in-law is a college lecturer. I've been in, around, beside and through so many education systems in this country, I know a huge amount about all stages from recruitment, admissions, support, graduation and work based learning.

The reason I started the 6129 is because I wanted training, practice and advice about how to be a plumber. On top of that you need to be motivated yourself, you need to volunteer to do work outside of the workshop, you've got to ask questions, you've got to be objective and look at your work without pride and be able to be critical. If you can do all these things you'll be a fine plumber.


I mention all this not for the people who have posted highly dubious opinions on this post, but for the people reading this who may be on this course, considering this course or in any way contemplating a class room based trade education. PLEASE consult someone who knows that facts, either in a college or careers adviser service, not someone on the internet.

I’m unsubscribing from this forum now because it’s giving me a headache.

i have posted many times about the 6129, people who are plumbers, been trained, are trainers can ALL have an opinion on the 6129 and 6089 (NVQ) if they wish and it can be valued as they are the ones who know the true value yet you believe a minister knows better!!!!!!!!!! Although i do agree with much he says

I know for a fact that courses have been cancelled half way through, it happened in my home town and was on the front of the local paper, didnt stop em doing it, if it aint makingmoney it can be culled. all enrolment forms say in the small print that courses can be stopped at any time.

it isnt that the 6129 isnt a good course, it is but it is only the Tec Cert and therefore limited. The full qualification as recognised by summitskills is the 6089 or NVQ which is a C&G qualification for those getting confused.
The problem in the trade stems from as summitskills will tell you to many being trained on 6129 alone. it was designed to offer a route into industry for adults and those without jobs. the idea was that they would all or most of them rreturn to complete the nvq later, around 80% do the 6129 only. that is were the issues have come from. if the odd well motivated hard working individual sat the 6129, got a van and then went self employed making a good go of it nobody would take issue. the problem is the amount who do this or aspire to do this for the wrong reasons (makin money/over charging) those who take on jobs to dificult for the inexpeirienced, those who undercut lowering the living trade qualified can make etc etc.

I believe in the 6129 just not the amount trained on that only, if they had brough out a cap when it was first introduced in 2004 then this problem wouldnt have arrison. we now find ourselfs merging the quals and asking people ot be employed as before. this will be ok for school leavers with an apprenticeship but will shut the door on many others. adults will sufefr the most but they have the choice of getting an apprenticeship and doing the course sat with school leavers. the only other alternative is the new 2000 pre apprenticeship series at level 1 giving an insight into plumbing, electrical, H&V and refridegeration. It sounds good to me but how many would take it?

I will not be unsubscribing from this forum and therefore am available to respond to any replies as opposed to having my say and running away

 

[fuzzy]

i have an in law who works in a college, therefore everything i write about the 6129 is right

 

[fuzzy]

do you have any links or stats to back this up? i think youll find that once again there are more people enroleld on full time 6129 courses than apprenticeship 6089 courses

 

[plumbit]

reading this has got my head mashed.....

here is why....

i am 39 self employed builder but want to just eventually be a qualified plumber.....
reason for this is i know alot in reality but on paper i know nothing.

i have enrolled in a college course thinking i was doing things the right way instead of doing a quickie 6 week course
and giving someone 5 grand.

the course im on is the rvq 6129 plumbing apprenticeship.
now i understand that this will not make me a plumber but i am of the understanding that this will teach me all the basics

if i am right in thinking when this course ends in 1 year i will then do the nvq level 2 then i will take the nvq level 3
i will then be classed as a qualified plumber..

am i correct please advise.

 

[fuzzy]

your doing the vrq 6129 tec cert, not the full qual but 75% of the nvq mate. its a step in the right direction. youl then have to get work as a plumber to get the nvq. then after decemeber you cannot enrol on either course because they cease to exist. youl have to get a job as a plumber and do the diploma

 

[plumbing1981]

Do you have the actual past exams or the ones on smartscreen?

If you have the past exams could you possibly email them to me? I'll give you a drink for sending them...cheers

i got it on a disc, pm me your address and i'll post it out to you

KJ

 

[desrob]

firstly college do stop courses mid term,fact,secondly with two degrees and wanting to become a plumber going down the 6129 route explains a lot about you,reading between the lines you really need to start listening to your wife and not turn everything into your way of thinking.colleges,sadly are 100% a business,the 6129 i believe was manipulated by college administrators etc to put bums on seats and increase there profit margins,this of course was based on pass rates and i have seen some strange goings on to increase a colleges pass rate,making a mockery,if not laughable enough of the 6129.

 

[fuzzy]

it wasnt colleges who manipulated the 6129, how can they? they can only run courses that the sector skills councils design, its not the fault of a college is it desrob? if a college runs a course that people want how is it wrong?


you may have a point with private training providers who sell the 6129 as a full qual when it isnt.
because too many have done the 6129 without going on to get the 6089 they are now dropping the 6129 and altering the 6089 to include all aspect, meaning you have to be employed and therefore atempting to stop private training providers

 

[desrob]

colleges are not interested in students progression,they saturated the plumbing department with any one they could,eg.young female wanting to do hair and beauty was told her chosen course was full,but there;s the 6129 in plumbing give that a try,young students pleasing parents,putting in time,moving from course to course,the college powers that be did manipulate the 6129 and in the process the ones that did want to learn and progress did suffer,ask any college any where,the 6129 was a blessing that kept other dept running ok fuzzy.and private training providers will move on and offer some thing different at least ther honest about what they do,if your foolish enough to go along with that,then you get what you deserve.