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Looking at ordering a few sets of benders, I’ve always used Rothenberger ones. Are they much of a much mess? Obviously we all have our favourites.
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Cheap rubbish or old school decent ones...old school hilmor or record benders for me... Definitely a different in quality thesedays
I use these
https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/rothenberger-pipe-bender-15-22mm/88794
Had them 8 years always bent fine, never rippled. Only now are they starting to get a little stiff when bending 22mm, not sure why that is.
Well, I guess that's the whole nature vs nurture debate. Some can swing both ways too. They come in a range of sizes and colours. There are also some that don't identify with your binary hetero-normative definition and refuse to be categorised.
Wait. What are we all talking about?
Why are you buying a few sets , are you a rough ***** or do you think they are going to get nicked .
Hilmor’s everytime lol
Why are you buying a few sets , are you a rough ***** or do you think they are going to get nicked .
Hilmor’s everytime lol
Agree, would be the difference between hiring or not if they got decent tools.
Are the modern Hilmors any better than the cheap ones? A few brands look like they’ve come out of the same factory but have had different stickers put on.
If your staffing up a new business I would think it would be power tools, fga's etc you should be supplying. I would expect most plumbers to have hand tools and a set of benders.
I always buy the cheapest hand tools possible, my benders lasted 20 years so far. Can’t beat the pound shop for tools too, sold all my Snap On on when started gas engineering
Pound shop tape measures...wicked
Pound shop spirit levels...love
It depends, British Gas and many others provide them. A recent death of an apprentice electrician at Western Power was the result of using his own hand tools and the HSE concluded that the employer must provide hand tools.
So if you employ then it's down to your risk assessment. If your employee is injured from using a hand tool then you could find yourself liable.
Did you see the news today ! no more gas boiler fitted by 2020 I would be thinking get your new guys trained in alternative forms of heating and push part of your company that way by being a accredited installer MCI and what ever else is needed , heating is gonna change dramatically in the next 5 years get ahead now take your company well part of it down the new road and get ahead of the rest , as for tools any decent engineer will have his hand tool kit , supply good quality battery gear ( Metabo ) and hilmour benders if you do go that way . Kop
Metabo
Supply Milwaukee, at least start out them guys out on the correct path.
Had them 8 years always bent fine, never rippled.
@Jim09876 which bit don’t you agree with?
Each to their own obviously, you’ll find a lot of fabrication companies use Metabo grinders/drills because they can take a lot of abuse.
I’ve not owned anything from Milwaukee for years after I found the parts/service people to be horrific. I can’t imagine this has improved since being bought over by TTI (the same company that make Ryobi). I’m sure others have had bad experience with Metabo.
Makita are one of the few tool companies that aren’t owned by vampire like venture capitalist firms that just bleed once reputable brands dry. More often than not you’ll find hire shops supplying Makita tools which says a lot.
Just own a Milwaukee at the moment, that’s all! Had all the brands mentioned...all preformed satisfactory to be honest. I never considered the ethical stand point though, just bought it outside Screwfix of the rep.
Good that you don't get rippling with those but for those that do I have a solution when mine have done that.
I apply a tiny amount of light oil with a rag to both the former and the guide. I believe that rippling occurs when the finished surface of these parts get roughed up a bit over time through normal use, not so much that you can see it but it's there. I think rippling occurs as the pipe repeatedly sticks or grabs then lets go as the pipe is being formed, leaving the ripples in the pipe.
The oil allows the pipe to slip more easily as it is bent around the formers. It's an easy fix and you don't have to reapply more oil for a good few weeks, depending upon how much you use the tool of course.
Sometimes it’s just the tube had a length that would ripple anything past 45 degrees turns out it was hard in spots
I agree it can definitely be the fault of the pipe. My solution works when the benders are rippling every piece of pipe put in them. As I work in the workshop with students I've got 10 sets of them and occasionally one of them will start rippling every bend so that's what I do to stop that happening.
Normally do a test piece and spray with wd40
That's good advice, do a test piece and keep the thing lubed. I like it.
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