Advice on £quote received for plumbing a renovation

[buckfast]

 

[SimonG]

Something missing?

 

[buckfast]

Hello,
It is my first post here. I am based in Ireland and am trying to extend a house and do a renovation. Have no friends or family in the plumbing trade, so I really dont have a clue about it. Hoping to contract out the extension and renovation to a builder and I hope people here might be able to advise if I am getting value for money or not, and if you have any other tips about what type of material we should be installing, that'd be great. I have attached drawings of the house.

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a new condensing boiler is required
- a new hot water cylinder also
- TRVs fitted to all radiators
we are also fitting a solid fuel stove in the living room, with a back boiler
- the hot press is located downstairs, but we couldn't move it upstairs due to lack of space upstairs
- we need two new showers too, one electric and one power using the hot water from the cylinder.

 

[buckfast]

Sorry, was having trouble posting for some reason, I have more to add

Here are the costs quoted in £:

1. Wastes on ground and 1st floor = 400
2. F&R to rads = 100
3. F&R to cylinder = 250
4. Prostel 210L twin coil cylinder = 800
5. Cylinder accessories = 450
6. Plumbing of back boiler = 400
7. Set back boiler into chimney = 400
8. Radiators x15 at 150 each
9. Oil boiler (external, self housed) = 1400
10. Sundry items = 400
11. Sanitary ware (fit only) = 400
12. Zoning of heating = 400
13. Builder work = 400

 

[Best]

First glance it seems mostly very cheap, although seems a bit strange as materials and labour are separate. Like F&R to radiators £100? What's that - labour? £8050 I make it, which doesn't surprise me. Labour seems low. Depends if all copper job, or plastic also, as labour would be less with some of the work.
You will be paying vat on everything I assume?
Good luck getting a builder involved in plumbing.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

As above too cheap for copper so will be plastic and plastic 10mm drops for rads which I don't like

 

[buckfast]

Thanks, that's good to know that it is a good price. Interesting point on copper vs plastic. Cheers. Any other advice?

 

[Best]

Thanks, that's good to know that it is a good price. Interesting point on copper vs plastic. Cheers. Any other advice?

Most important is have a really good plumber do the work.
The oil boiler is in my opinion best to be Grant Vortex. (There is a couple of makers I wouldn't use.)
The solid fuel stove will need to be installed to manufacturers instructions, which will normally require a heat leak radiator and thermostic control of pump/cylinder. Usually a pipe stat needs to be fitted AT the cylinder, on the return pipe as it leaves the coil.
Get the house insulated as much as you can afford, because that saves you money for life

 

[quality]

Best advice is quality
But what does really good plumber mean
Ive linked loads of systems. It can be very rubbish and can be very good
don't take this the wrong way, you need a proper heating engineer not some upstart with a gas ticket

 

[Best]

Best advice is quality
But what does really good plumber mean
Ive linked loads of systems. It can be very rubbish and can be very good
don't take this the wrong way, you need a proper heating engineer not some upstart with a gas ticket

Totally agree. Or an OFTEC qualification. Fairly meaningless unless the plumber has some knowledge and experience and is honest. Link up solid fuel systems aren't in every gas or oil heating engineers knowledge.
Don't let a plumber in a nice new van with plumbing qualifications sign written over it reassure you of his/her ability or willingness to do a good job

 

[buckfast]

Thank again. I was thinking of ditching the electric showers and going for two pumped showers. Never liked the electric showers. Only one concern is during summer, when no heating on to heat hot water, how do people these days deal with this besides turning on the immersion or having solar panels (which are something I really can't afford now)

 

[Gray0689]

Are you Northern or Southern Ireland
The rules on solid fuel are not same as uk
The price you have is hard to say what your getting is cheap or dear without knowing what materials they are supplying it's hard to say

 

[Gray0689]

Why pumped showers? Looks like an invented cylinder is priced for