Wear And Tear Causing Leaks?

[Trevor Rix]

Is there such a thing as "wear and tear" causing joints in a new heating installation to leak within two years? As in infrequent heating and cooling of the water in the pipes causing expansion and contraction of joints?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

TF1’s are known to have problems. Especially once fitted for a couple of years. You only have to knock the black body and the valves leak. Plus they are both in a terrible location. (Also, why do you have 2?) Was that cupboard and shelving built after the installation works were completed? Also check all the paperwork as they may have noted the condition of them on the CP12. If I had done a service it would be on the CP12

Primary and secondary sides of the plate

 

[Harvest Fields]

Primary and secondary sides of the plate

Shouldn’t it all go back to the return on the boiler?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Shouldn’t it all go back to the return on the boiler?

Bio mass mate

 

[Rob Foster]

TF1’s are known to have problems. Especially once fitted for a couple of years. You only have to knock the black body and the valves leak. Plus they are both in a terrible location. (Also, why do you have 2?) Was that cupboard and shelving built after the installation works were completed? Also check all the paperwork as they may have noted the condition of them on the CP12. If I had done a service it would be on the CP12

The best mag filter we were involved with was Centramag
by Trappex... its a smashing unit...not mine but Shaz 's great
quality strong magnet and a fine none mag filter. centralheatking

 

[Harvest Fields]

Bio mass mate

No worries. I presume that means that they have independent returns?

 

[Sharp Point]

Tf1 is a good unit ...I designed part of it

Oh did you, please tell me that you’re not the bellend who decided to have the captive nut finish more or less consuming all the threads( so it won’t turn no more, as it hits the shoulder)

 

[Aire]

No worries. I presume that means that they have independent returns?

Two seperate circuits, you have a flow and return from the biomass and a flow and return from the heating. The plate is heated by the biomass and the heating is heated by the plate.

 

[Rob Foster]

Oh did you, please tell me that you’re not the bellend who decided to have the captive nut finish more or less consuming all the threads( so it won’t turn no more, as it hits the shoulder)

not our bit, the connections were by others, and were down to cost ..I understand just like the early magnacleans.we only do the magnets, porting and the strainers . .Usually the bodies are the expensive bit in order to make them seem unique..in reality the guts are the unseen quality components ...often the connections were set up by the
originators from their side using their off the shelf parts

 

[Sharp Point]

Why does it so many to design something so god damn simple.
Water goes in- passes a magnet- water goes out

Hardly making a part for nasa

 

[OffshoreGas]

Why does it so many to design something so god damn simple.
Water goes in- passes a magnet- water goes out

Hardly making a part for nasa

The good ones also act as hydra cyclones removing non magnetic material too.

Some computational fluid dynamics would be required to optimise the performance of them.

 

[Sharp Point]

The good ones also act as hydra cyclones removing non magnetic material too.

Some computational fluid dynamics would be required to optimise the performance of them.

Yep, which don’t work neither. They may collect the odd lump. But I’m afraid most things just pass through, you can confirm this by seeing what’s not been collected opening up a magnaclean

 

[Rob Foster]

Yep, which don’t work neither. They may collect the odd lump. But I’m afraid most things just pass through, you can confirm this by seeing what’s not been collected opening up a magnaclean

Its not always clear cut, some companies have components they make themselves which are way cheaper than buying in.
Often 5pence + or - can swing things on a £100 unit. Its easy to produce a one off price for an item BUT get it wrong 100,000 times ..not good. Then the accountant
looks over things and shaves even further. Then there is the sharing of common non end user components ..its fun but complicated centralheatking

 

[Rob Foster]

Why does it so many to design something so god damn simple.
Water goes in- passes a magnet- water goes out

Hardly making a part for nasa

market price, performance differencials all play a part. just look at petrol or derv. its all the same stuff..but the retailers try very hard to differenciate their stuff from the others...washing powder is the same. most of these magnet filters are similar
but smoke and mirrors takes effect

 

[Rob Foster]

Why does it so many to design something so god damn simple.
Water goes in- passes a magnet- water goes out

Hardly making a part for nasa

Some filters stand out in my opinion..the Eclipse one is an example...and guess what ?