Running a new gas pipe from meter to kitchen advice

[GQuigley67]

5 day course bloody hell...

 

[mcniven]

thats the advance course gerry

 

[choco]

I think this collective bottom lip quivering is down to a misunderstanding.
My domestic assessments exams was over five days, not my entire gas training. I passed every one of the papers and practical assignments but have not revised since Feb.
I did a full trade apprenticeship and qualified to C&G Advanced Craft over 20 years ago, and was Corgi-registered in the 90s.
I spent a period of time out of the trade until recently, and have been inching my way back in since last year. I am now GS-registered but am still getting to grips with all the new legislation.
I appreciate the constructive advice some of you have offered, but can the rest of you headshakers stick your dummies back in? Yeah? 'Triffic!

 

[glenno1]

You are maybe legit choco, but many arnt and that is why you are hearing from a lot of unhappy engineers

 

[stevetheplumber]

even in the 80s and 90s we were pipe sizing and you must have covered it in the recent assesments
yes you can upsize the pipework to deliver more fuel to an appliance gas preasure is lost when the gas touches the walls of the pipework so larger pipes mean less friction and less preasure loss

 

[AWheating]

I think this collective bottom lip quivering is down to a misunderstanding.
My domestic assessments exams was over five days, not my entire gas training. I passed every one of the papers and practical assignments but have not revised since Feb.
I did a full trade apprenticeship and qualified to C&G Advanced Craft over 20 years ago, and was Corgi-registered in the 90s.
I spent a period of time out of the trade until recently, and have been inching my way back in since last year. I am now GS-registered but am still getting to grips with all the new legislation.
I appreciate the constructive advice some of you have offered, but can the rest of you headshakers stick your dummies back in? Yeah? 'Triffic!

it takes time to learn the trade, i can honestly say every time i go back to resit the acs i forget alot of it very quickly for around 5 years anyway . I think if you had given alittle more information in a couple of posts you would have got les questioning replys. The good thing is your asking for advise which shows you want to do things right.

the puzzling thing is why you wanted to come back to the trade? you can earn more money with a paint brush..... i bet you longed for the smell of boss white

 

[kirkgas]

exaggeration or overstatement. You must have been off ill the day that word was taught :smile:

i must have been off lots of days then, cause theres hunners of stuff i dont know

 

[kirkgas]

Kirk will know the answer to this

Is the engineers name not tied in with the training centre for the first few years?

technically yes in that if there is an incident by anyone who is gas competant (this will be in doubt as they are being investigated because of an incident) so it is perfectly acceptable for the authorities to examine every avenue of their background which includes their company ethos towards work (ie completing 15 services a day could be seen to be bad management allowing the increased risk of a mistake) or if there is no issue with the company they can look at the assessment process, but TBH in CYA land which is well covered by training and certification bodies it would be very unlikely that a training centre would be blamed for his incompetance as long as they followed the guidelines handed to them by their certification body which has been ratified by HSE, however if mistakes were found in the paperwork meaning he hadnt actually carried out certain tests they could be blamed, which is why i assess you, someone does an Internal verification of the paperwork then it is sent to the cert body where it gets externally verified so there are 3 lines of defence to pick up probs, and one of the reasons i cant print and issue gas certs on the day you pass, they dont care about the delay as its a better safety net for them and you have a 6 month window to come in before your ticket runs out

 

[topdog]

WARNING..........Not GAS SAFE Reg........
Doing Work Portfolio at the moment,

If you give me the KW of the 2 appliances, AND Distances from meter also,Ts & bends required,
I will work it out for you.......and give you the pressure loss and pipe size to use.

Remember I'am a trainee Gas Engineer.

But I can work it out for you, its no problem, if you still need help to work it out.
and I can post it on here so other Engineers can see if I'am correct.
Just trying to help.

Remember Maximum pressure absorption of 1mbar from gas meter outlet to all appliance inlet connections, assuming the working
pressure at the gas meter outlet is 21mbar this will ensure that the appliances are supplied with their design pressure of 20 mbar.
It must be stressed that this is working pressure NOT standing pressure.
Remember to add 0.5 metre to the length of pipework for EVERY Elbow or T and 0.3 metres for a 90 degree mechanical bend.
Hope this helps,
Paul Wolfe
Remember I'am a trainee

 

[Howsie]

thats the 'gas safety registered plumbers' section danny

Where's that then?