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Ok all I know is they have been and are being de listed by the authorities there is nothing to stop joe the plumber fitting them just like joe does not have to use Wras approved products. In my side of the business all these things matter. The only legal criminal control is GSR. However to fitting unapproved items leaves the door wide open to civil litigation and could invalidate his insurance if indeed joe has any if things go wrong, there is little difference in the price anyway. CentralheatkingThat says nothing. It's all may and could