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Hi,

I looking to support a friend who is a local handyman. He does not have any plumbing qualifications but is more than competent and I have seen his work which I think is to a good standard.

Is there a list of work he is legally permitted to carry out? I’m keen to support him but don’t want to void my own insurance etc.

Many thanks.
 
Tbh plumbing is unregulated

He can’t touch unvented cylinders and gas boiler
 
He would need to be Gas Safe registered to work on gas as above but so long as he is insured and carries out his work in a 'Workman like manner', complies with all the relevant regulations, standards and instructions, I can't think of anything he can't 'legally' do.
The qualifications come in when, for example:

You have to join something such as a competent persons scheme (CPS) in order to notify work that requires notifying.

Situations where people will require them e.g. Schools, Nursing homes, Hospitals etc but if he is only doing domestic work I can't see them asking.

I know our insurance company never asks for evidence that we are qualified to carry out the work we do but that doesn't mean they won't if something goes wrong, so I would be cautious with thinking your insurance company will cover his work.
Always worth getting it in writing where sub-contractors are concerned. Better still, ask him to insure himself and look at it when he gets it.

Qualifications (decent ones) prove you have studied and learnt a subject to a certain level. There are many things in this job as well as others that you learn during the time spent in college or in an apprenticeship that you didn't know before and wouldn't know, had you not been shown. Some of those things are important and not knowing them can lead to disaster. Just because someone is good at DIY and works neat, doesn't mean that they are doing the job safely or correctly.

Hope this helps.
 
Correct
 
Great answer above from last plumber.

I do my own simple plumbing work on generally old fashioned kit (and not gas nor central heating), BUT I always check with my insurance first.

I'm not sure how (if you don't plumb yourself) you know your well meaning friend is competent. There is much more than what you can see, unless you have x-ray vision. Also you only see what you are looking for.

I wouldn't consider myself competent e.g. to work for anyone else. The more I learn the more I realise I don't know.

Cheers,

Roy (amateur)
 
Great answer above from last plumber.

I do my own simple plumbing work on generally old fashioned kit (and not gas nor central heating), BUT I always check with my insurance first.

I'm not sure how (if you don't plumb yourself) you know your well meaning friend is competent. There is much more than what you can see, unless you have x-ray vision. Also you only see what you are looking for.

I wouldn't consider myself competent e.g. to work for anyone else. The more I learn the more I realise I don't know.

Cheers,

Roy (amateur)
Thank you.
Dunning-Kruger effect comes into play with this discussion. If you've not heard of it, it's worth a quick look. Here's a link.
No offence or criticism meant to anyone, many of us have experience of it at some point in our lives in my opinion and over all manner of things.
 
Thank you.
Dunning-Kruger effect comes into play with this discussion. If you've not heard of it, it's worth a quick look. Here's a link.
No offence or criticism meant to anyone, many of us have experience of it at some point in our lives in my opinion and over all manner of things.
I'm sure I have a nasty looking case of Dunning-Kruger 😁

My brain blames my physical inabilities for even being able to start many tasks.

Cheers,

Roy (virtual amateur plumber)
 

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