New build plumber doing gas safe?

[Mgrant]

Hey I work for a building firm as a plumber, the plumber I work with at the firm is leaving. The firm is on about putting me through my gas, for this would I need to build a gas portfolio? Would other people guessed getting gas safe registered is a good idea? I realize it will mean a bit of paper work?

 

[lame plumber]

you'll also need to learn how to do it and follow in someones coat tails to know how and get your portfolio signed off

 

[Mgrant]

How many jobs etc is needed for a portfolio? I no how to carry out let by and tightness testing. But have not had much to do with flue gas analyzers.

 

[Ermintrude]

Analyser is the least of your worries

 

[Mgrant]

Analyser is the least of your worries

Could you explain more please?

 

[Ermintrude]

Analyser is a basic tool u hardly use. It's pipework, calculations and craftsmanship. FGA is muppets excuse for servicing

 

[Dotty]

Could you explain more please?

Let's put it this way.

Gas Safe has just turned the GIUSP on its head. It became live on the first of this month but we won't be given an insight into the changes until August. Even training centres have been caught on the hop.

We are expected to check for industry updates regularly and comply with them immediately.

And if we don't? There's the possibility of a cell door slamming closed behind you.

Still feeling confident?

 

[Mgrant]

do you not use a flue gas analayser every time you commission a new boiler?

 

[Mgrant]

Let's put it this way.

Gas Safe has just turned the GIUSP on its head. It became live on the first of this month but we won't be given an insight into the changes until August. Even training centres have been caught on the hop.

We are expected to check for industry updates regularly and comply with them immediately.

And if we don't? There's the possibility of a cell door slamming closed behind you.

Still feeling confident?

I no its a lot of responsibility yes, what do you mean when you say even training centers have been caught in the hop?

 

[Dotty]

I no its a lot of responsibility yes, what do you mean when you say even training centers have been caught in the hop?

They weren't aware it had been released.

 

[Mgrant]

released as in regulations have changed?

 

[Dotty]

released as in regulations have changed?

No. The regs haven't changed. Just the classification and treatment of unsafe situations.

You don't really need to know about it because come the time you do your training the changes will be incorporated.

 

[Ermintrude]

Use FGA everyday

 

[Mgrant]

Thanks for the replys, am guessing the firm I work for will need to get a new gas safe plumber in as at the moment there is no one to build a portfolio with.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thanks for the replys, am guessing the firm I work for will need to get a new gas safe plumber in as at the moment there is no one to build a portfolio with.

either that or they find someone for you to go with

 

[Mgrant]

After a gas safe plumber signs off a new house is he responsible for the safety of the gas appliances and pipework on the house for a number of years?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

After a gas safe plumber signs off a new house is he responsible for the safety of the gas appliances and pipework on the house for a number of years?

until anything is changed yes

 

[Mgrant]

changed or serviced?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

changed or serviced?

changed and if the appliance is serviced its not the original gas fitters problem as it has been serviced by another

 

[Mgrant]

Seems a big responsibility.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Seems a big responsibility.

it is and it need to be right

 

[Dotty]

Seems a big responsibility.

it is and it need to be right

Hence my remark about the cell door.

if we screw up people can die. And that's a constant thought in the back of my head.

 

[Mgrant]

However gas qualifications are something most see as essential to progress within plumbing.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

However gas qualifications are something most see as essential to progress within plumbing.

some plumbing appliances require gas as well

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Hence my remark about the cell door.

if we screw up people can die. And that's a constant thought in the back of my head.

you always double think yourself well i do

 

[Mgrant]

What do you mean by double think?

 

[AWheating]

What area of the uk are you from M grant ?

tbh new build is a good place to learn, if your working with somebody who knows the regs and has a good work standard.

 

[Mgrant]

I have heard of plumbers in the past saying they weren't bothered for being gas safe. Guess they didn't want the responsibility.

 

[Mgrant]

Near Leeds

 

[AWheating]

The myth is that being gas qualified mean a better paid job, this is not always the way tho.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

What do you mean by double think?

double check your pipe sizing etc

 

[Mgrant]

you always double think yourself well i do

Guessing you mean double checking?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Guessing you mean double checking?

yea

 

[Mgrant]

double check your pipe sizing etc

Thanks guess problems with pipe sizing wont be fatal like a problem with the flue could be?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thanks guess problems with pipe sizing wont be fatal like a problem with the flue could be?

it could be

 

[AWheating]

Pipe sizing can be fatal, under size and you can have gas escapes, poor combustion etc....

 

[Mgrant]

Gas escapes by under sized piping?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Gas escapes by under sized piping?

yep but you will about that in collage

 

[Mgrant]

Someone mentioned it was a 2 week course? Sounds abit short?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Someone mentioned it was a 2 week course? Sounds abit short?

you wont need a portfolio with that one but its the worst one to go for

 

[Mgrant]

you wont need a portfolio with that one but its the worst one to go for

Why wouldn't you need a portfolio? For this was standard for new entrants?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Why wouldn't you need a portfolio? For this was stand for new entrants?

they do it all in house https://www.ableskills.co.uk/gas-training-courses/gas-training-course/ have a read thats 3 week but you can get them 2 weeks as well

 

[Mgrant]

Was hoping to build a portfolio while working with a gas engineer to get some more experience from working with a gas engineer.

 

[Mgrant]

Although I have worked in the plumbing industry for 6 years. A 2 week course to be the gas safe registered sounds short.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

sounds like you want the one day a week course from your local collage if you can

 

[Mgrant]

Can't see work letting me do that.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Can't see work letting me do that.

prob not but the best way

 

[Mgrant]

Every gas training centre's website I have been on has said you need a portfolio bar the link you sent me are these a one off or are they a lot of places that do it without a portfolio?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Every gas training centre's website I have been on has said you need a portfolio bar the link you sent me are these a one off or are they a lot of places that do it without a portfolio?

they do one but they sort it out in house

 

[Mgrant]

as in you do it at the college?