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  1. eaton

    eaton Guest

    bloody hell does it stop,

    just spoke to Real and if I take depsoits need a 3rd party client bank account so if I go bust they can get their money back, anyone else do this? if they charge me for a bank account think ill drop the deposit idea
     
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  2. unguided1

    unguided1 Plumber GSR

    Lol just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water eh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  3. eaton

    eaton Guest

    you just wouldnt believe it would you!!!!
     
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  4. unguided1

    unguided1 Plumber GSR

    LMAO I would, why do yer think I gave up and started stamping me feet like a red haired step child!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  5. unguided1

    unguided1 Plumber GSR

    Well I PMd me details but I aint heard owt yet, was it something I said??
     
  6. quality

    quality Plumber GSR

    I suspect your statment is being considered or ignored
     
  7. unguided1

    unguided1 Plumber GSR

    I dunno but I was invited and I didnt think I had missed that many calls, cos If I miss em I try and call back
     
  8. EasyMCSLtd

    EasyMCSLtd Guest

    Unguided1 I sent you and Mick Williams an e-mail and had further correspondence with Mick which you have been cc: in on. Please advise if you have not received as I would really value your opinion on the points I have raised to Mick on some of what I would suggest are fundamental issues with the campaign and how we can work together to simplify the QMS element without compromising the quality.
     
  9. unguided1

    unguided1 Plumber GSR

    I will PM my email again to yer I definatley aint recieved one unless it went into, the junk mail which I never lookat and just delet cheers for the fast response.
    Regards
    Mike
     
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  10. EasyMCSLtd

    EasyMCSLtd Guest

    Eaton - As i understand it you can use the saving or bmm account which sits along side your normal business account saving you from having to open a new account. i have included a link which talks about how you can use the cover its a bit complicated but basically if you win a job and take a deposit or advanced payment you inform the insurance company and they will apply cover against that payment in the event of you closing your business during the project.

    i hope this helps and congratulations on passing your assessment, can i ask which member of our training team worked with you?

    https://www.real.qanw.co.uk/login.php
     
  11. eaton

    eaton Guest

    didnt really have one specific person, spoke to simon and last of all libby,

    im with santander and they basically dont wany to know, bloke siad go and talk to hsbc or natwest which I have but ill need to move all business their way, currently have a business account and a reserve account, could I use the reserve account for deposits? real seemed certain i need it in a 3rd part client account, whats this insurance is it the one real offer for free once youve joined?
     
  12. EasyMCSLtd

    EasyMCSLtd Guest

    Hi Eaton,As I understand it you can use the reserve account for compliance with Real but it's worth discussing it with the insurance side as they ultimately call the shots with regard to the cover for advanced payments / deposits. I am back in the office on Wedneday if you would like me to have a look into this for you? Regards Simon.
     
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  13. eaton

    eaton Guest

    Thanks I'd appreciate that could save me having to move banks!!
     
  14. boblydon

    boblydon Plumber GSR

    I to am looking down the route of MCS, this thread has been very helpful to see many different points of view, some of the posts I had never even thought about.Thanks too all who have contributed.Bob
     
  15. eaton

    eaton Guest

    Easymcs, any news regards bank accounts, my real certificate turned up earlier, just sent a copy to napit so should be ready to go
     
  16. EasyMCSLtd

    EasyMCSLtd Guest

    Hi Eaton,

    I have spoken to Real and they are now looking for a specified account that all banks have to offer which is a deposit or client bank account, the reason for this is that it is treated seperately from your normal account and would not be included in the company assests if it was to go into liquidiation, I have spoken to barclays today and they advised that they do not charge for this service but this may be down to the individual bank. Barclays advised that it is still under your business name but they set it up so that it does not fall as part of you standard business acoount to enable this to sit between you and the customer.

    This process has been utilised with solicitors when large amounts of money are being trasfered from one user to anouther, this was the way i described it to barclays and they new what i wanted after this.

    Please let me know if you need any further assitance on this.
     
  17. eaton

    eaton Guest

    thanks, santander told me they are not really interested so went to hsbc and they do one free but will have to move all my business with them, bloody pain in the arse, better get some work out of this lol
     
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  18. markfxy

    markfxy Plumber

    As nobody has posted about renewables for at least a week I can only assume that since the RHI announcement you are all snowed under with work and haven't even had a chance to post on this thread:smug:
    I'm still waiting for the phone to start ringing but i'm sure it will, wont it???
     
  19. EasyMCSLtd

    EasyMCSLtd Guest

    Markfxy - If you send me your MCS number i will see if we have had any enquiries come in from consumers looking for installations in your area.
     
  20. eaton

    eaton Guest

    very busy but not renewables, had one quote for a solar install, should be on the register either this monday or next so will see then if this mcs lark actually starts paying off
     
  21. eaton

    eaton Guest

    right confirmed today, im MCS approved. Went online all logged in and looking good, only issue is cant fird the Barilla flat plates on the list, made by wagner but they are linked as vaillant!!!
     
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  22. CES

    CES Trusted Plumber GSR

    Well done Mate, Hope you do well out of it.
     
  23. dontknowitall

    dontknowitall Guest

    Eaton - hope you don't mind me asking.

    How long has it taken you to get to this stage and what's the approximate cost?

    I ask because on other threads there seem to be so many variables and it would be good to hear from the horse's mouth, if you see what I mean.

    Best of luck with the qualification and I hope you get a couple of jobs quickly before it's all forgotten!!
     
  24. eaton

    eaton Guest

    taken a year all in but sure you could do it quicker, its a lot of paperwork and a lot of nights by the pc total cost est inc training, books, cert etc £3,00 ish plus vat, plus as i said a lot of time so factor that in and your pushing roughly inc training and paperwork min 60 hours
     
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  25. dontknowitall

    dontknowitall Guest

    That's really helpful. Many thanks!!

    Good luck, again!
     
  26. EasyMCSLtd

    EasyMCSLtd Guest

    Easton, i have had a look and your are correct Wagner is not featured as an approved manufacturer of panels but they should be able to provide you with the MCS Number for the collectors you have used, If not let me know and I can do a bit more digging well done again on passing your MCS.
     
  27. eaton

    eaton Guest

    just checked again and they are under the solar keymark part as barilla f22, so its a rebadged wagner panel called barilla f22, as is the vaillant rebadged as aurotherm, dont like to make this easy do they!! just signed my first one off though with not too much problem.
     
  28. markfxy

    markfxy Plumber

    Mr Farquhar Easy MCS after reading your article in H&V magazine could you please explain how making it easier for small companies to get MCS accreditation will lead to in your words, Public money being squandered and a free for all which will confuse consumers leading to them choosing the bigger companies, Also how has it maintained high quality installations and protected consumers when
    the main focus of MCS is the QMS which is easily achievable by the cowboy double glazing companies.

    You also claim that to let us smaller installers distribute government funding would be criminal and lead to that money being squandered??

    I would suggest your charges are criminal and your estimate of £770 pounds to achieve MCS accreditation is laughable any loosening of the criteria would hit you lot in the pocket which is why you're questioning the standards of smaller companies most of which will still be installing in the next 10, 15 years as a necessity, How many of the rip off merchants you've helped to gain MCS will be around when the fit's are reduced in a few years not many.
     
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  29. unguided1

    unguided1 Plumber GSR

    have you got a link to this Markfxy
     
  30. ecowarm

    ecowarm Guest

    Eaton and markfxy can you contact me if your MCS solar thermal I have a contact with work nationwide for a supermarket group
     
  31. eaton

    eaton Guest

  32. EasyMCSLtd

    EasyMCSLtd Guest

    Markfxy - For the purpose of clarification I would like to point out that some of the points you have raised are incorrect and untrue and I would like to address this to prevent confusion for installer looking to gain MCS.

    The comment raised about reducing the standards i.e removing the QMS would make it easier for installers to join the scheme but also would make it easier for rogue traders to operate in the industry. The standards have been set to ensure a high level of quality for both the installation and customer relations. The QMS simply provides evidence that you fully understand the standards and will operate to them, without this installers may fall outside of the standards resulting in consumers not receiving the correct level of service from the approved installer.

    The main focus of MCS is not the QMS although this does play an important part in the initial assessment to ensure the installer have the correct procedures in place to operate in accordance with the MCS standards. The latest MIS document is testament to this emphasising on the competence of the installer carrying out the work.

    We have never said that smaller installer distributing the funds made available by the government would be criminal, although we do feel that if the standards were to be reduced rogue traders would find it easier to join the scheme resulting in a higher level of customer complaints and consumer confidence in the industry. I am sorry to hear that you feel our charges are to high and we do try to maintain competitive price which saves installers in the long run. In most cases the costs associated with using Easy MCS are offset by the discounts associated with the assessment and training costs. But I can assure you that many installers who have experience in the technology they are looking to install have gained MCS for £770 of less I spoke to one MCS installer at the renewable roadshow this week who had been installing heat pumps for a large firm for three years and had now set up on his own and he achieved MCS for £250. I am more than happy to advise how he did this so others can in the future.

    As always I would like to state that easy mcs works towards assisting installers to achieve MCS, we do not set the standards for the MCS or have anything to do with the certification scheme requirements. We simply work to the standards set out and help when asked.
     
  33. eaton

    eaton Guest

    Just thought I'd add I'm starting to see real benefits of mcs, solar is dead at minute but heat pumps are going well, Im doing one a month currently and its more profitable than any boiler install.

    Also just been nominated for "national heat pump Install of the year" awards show is on may I think. Good times and proud moments
     
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    AlexGas Plumber GSR

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