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shorticus
As I value other's opinions (allmost as much as my own lol), thought I'd ask you all what you think of CIPHE?
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Hi
Ex member waste of time and money the public don't know who they are. Most people just want to know if your gsr.
Hi Shorticus, thank you for asking.
In 2011 we will be promoting Registered Plumbers (RP) and Registered Heating Professionals (RHP) in the following ways:
Thames Water will be telling all their customers to use RP for water efficiency. RPs will be paid to supply water efficient products.
We will be promoting on Sky Sports through Rugby Super League matches with pitch side boards, see CIPHE website and last edition of P&HE magazine info and for more on this next year.
We have been promoting RP and RHP with E.On to all their customers this will continue to March through the E.ON ShowerSave scheme which pays RP and RHP CIPHE fees if they fit the devices and helps them to create a good feeling for their customers so they win more work in the future.
200 000 copies of a RICS publication going to new home owners 1/2 page will promote RP and RHP.
At present two other water companies are talking to us about backing RP and RHP in same way as Thames Water.
The following companies will be promoting RP and RHP: Worcester Bosch, Grundfos, Ideal Standard, Fernox, Honeywell, Plumbfix. Others are in discussions (would rather not say yet in case it blows the deals; guess Penged might call that hype). The message will be Get It Right Get A Professional and the manufacturers are putting that in their customer literature and messaging the trade with Get It Right Get registered.
The misconnections group will continue to promote RPs as they people to trust to get their incorrect plumbing fixed.
We need more RP and RHP as we do not have enough to meet consumer demand (oops here I go with the Hype again).
Always happy to take more suggestions, don't say a TV advert we cant afford them unlike GSR but any sensible ideas we will look at seriously.
CIPHE CEO
hi billybongo
really sorry to hear you've had problems getting on the ciphe site. Drop me an email with your contact details and i'll make sure it is sorted. As a member you should be able to find my email but if not it is on the website under contact us.
Ciphe ceo
hey tamz
just to clarify, snipef is the scottish and northern ireland plumbing employers federation and is a trade association which is the same as aphc in england and wales. These bodies are great at protecting their members’ business interests.
the chartered institute of plumbing and heating engineering is the only professional body for plumbing and heating engineering. We run the registered plumber, registered heating professional and greenplumb schemes that allow you to have letters after your name just like other professionals (e.g. Surveyors, architects and environmental health officers).
if all businesses were members of a trade association and all employers only employed registered professionals (like it is with gas safe but voluntarily) the cowboys would find it harder to operate doing bad work that make the public think that plumbing and heating engineers are all as bad as the ones they see on the telly.
sadly it doesn't work like that because the government says we do not have enough people voluntarily registered for plumbing and heating and people don't get registered because they don't have to. The result is the cowboys make the fast buck while the rest of us get tarred with their brush.
this is wrong information you give snipef in scotland and northen ireland are the same as aphc and ciphe.
Ciphe are nothing in scotland the only recognised employers federation and registered plumbing body in scotland are snipef.
For one you ciphe except fast trackers snipef dont and scotland doesnt so to say ciphe are the only registered plumbing body in britain is false information
The statement was correct, CIPHE is the only 'professional’ body as it's the only one that is Chartered.
There are differences between a Trade Association and a Professional Body. It is the same with ECA (Electrical Contractors Association) and IET (Institute of Engineering Technology used to be the IEE). The information about accepting fast track is wrong. If you check the criterion we only accept NVQ and SVQ as do SNIPEF (not just the technical certificate). It is true that we accept NVQ level 2 which does not exist in Scotland.
I don't intent to get into a protracted argument but Robert Burgon (Director General of SNIPEF) and I understand the difference and work together on that basis so that is all that really matters.
CIPHE CEO
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