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Hi,
was wondering if it's possible to install a new boiler myself and then pay to have it checked by a certified gas safe registered engineer.
I'm currently a Petty officer in the Royal navy serving on a nuclear submarine. I have a Hons degree in marine engineering and I am a CAT B nuclear Engineer. I think what I'm trying to say is I have 8 yrs experience in multi engineering disciplines i.e hydraulics, electrics, Gas turbines, and nuclear propulsion. If I had the time I would love to qualify as a certified gas safe engineer.At the moment I spend a lot of time away. I'm not trying to save money, but by fitting the boiler myself it's just to have the pleasure of installing a boiler and possibly installing the central heating in my self-build house when I finish in the navy. If it's a no go, then I'll look into becoming gas safe certified myself.
Many thanks for reading this.
 
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hayjay said:
thanks for all your replies. I just wondered. OK I'll become a gas fitter and then I can rip people off.........
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woooww!, so you expected you could do it lawfully and some one would sign it off for £50 and jobs a goodun!

does not work that way same as i cant be a submariner for the week on your sub, to see what its like. could you sign me in? just want to see what its like, no one will know!
 
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Hi

i have my 25m swimming badge, I have swam in my pyjamas in the big pool and also collected plastic bricks from the bottom of the pool.

I have a bath every night and can hold my breath underwater for 43 seconds.

Infact There has never been a day in my life that I haven't been in contact with water.

My question is, can I drive your submarine?
 
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Well im not picking up his toys and putting them back in the pram :)

Thats engineers for you, got a set of spanners, a degree and think rules dont apply to them.
 
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Get yourself certified mate. May have a cold couple of years whilst getting certified but after that you can do your own boiler, own central heating and everything. When you've finished, get yourself to college for your electrical, we're on a roll here, 15 years time you will have a great self build!
 
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It was about as called for as me saying I'm looking forward to joining the navy so I get to do all my mates up the......

ok ok im joking I wouldn't go there.. Although sub mariners do like it deeper.

but honestly after all the time effort and expense put into being qualified people won't just put their name to anything it could cost someone's livelihood or worse a life
 
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Putting aside all the comments which are probably justified, the answer is no.

I may be wrong here so please someone correct me if so, but you could hang the boiler and connect up the water pipes but legally cannot touch the gas, flue or electrics, no matter how competent you are in a completely different trade.

You would then have to get in a Gas Safe Registered Engineer to finish the job. Finding one who would be happy putting his name to your work would be difficult, hence the prices being batted about.

A GSR Engineer has gone through a lot of training to be able to work on gas. Every time he or she signs off a gas appliance he or she is putting their name to it. No one with an ounce of sense would want to do that.
 
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I’ll remind you a part of the Royal Navy Ethos.
7. Core Values: What we (Royal Navy) stand for
Our core values should be displayed at all times by all of us, whether we are on duty or
ashore with our friends and families. They should recognise our values and understand that
we are different from society and justifiably proud of the high standards we uphold in support
of our country.

a. Commitment. Selfless personal commitment is the foundation of Naval Service and
enables us to demonstrate a sense of authority and purpose. We must be prepared to
serve whenever and wherever we are required, and to do our very best at all times. This
means that we accept that we will be expected to put the needs of the mission, and our
team, ahead of our own interests.

b. Courage. Courage creates the strength on which fighting spirit, that essential
element which turns a fighting force into a winning force, depends. We must have the
physical courage to carry on with our task regardless of danger and discomfort, and the
moral courage always to do what we know is right.

c. Discipline. The Naval Service must be a disciplined service if it is to be effective. We
must therefore obey all lawful orders from our superiors. Self discipline is fundamental;
being able to discipline ourselves will earn us the respect and trust of others, and equip
us to cope with the difficult, individual decisions we will have to make during our service.

d. Respect For Others. Each one of us has the exceptional responsibility of bearing
arms, either collectively as part of a unit or individually, and when necessary of using
controlled force. In addition, we will sometimes have to live and work under extremely
difficult conditions. In such circumstances, it is particularly important that we show the
greatest respect, tolerance understanding, and compassion for others regardless of their
personal background; leadership and teamwork depend on it, and we have the
fundamental right to expect to be treated with the same degree of respect and dignity by
all with whom we serve.

e. Integrity. Integrity is that quality of an individual’s character that encompasses
honesty, sincerity, reliability, and unselfishness. It is an essential requirement of both
leadership and comradeship. Unless we maintain our integrity, others will not trust us and
teamwork will suffer. Putting this integrity into practice sometimes requires us to show
moral courage, because our decisions may not always be popular. This is not always
easy; however, doing the right thing will always earn respect.

f. Loyalty. The Nation, the Naval Service and those with whom we serve rely on our
commitment, dedication and support. We must therefore be loyal to our leaders, those
that we lead, our team, and our duty. Pass this test and we will never let others down.
 
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Also...

16. Standards of Conduct
The Royal Navy has an enviable and unrivalled reputation for operational success, both
past and present. It is an enduring feature of which everyone can be justifiably proud but we
should not take this for granted. Awareness and continuity of our ethos is fundamental to
maintaining this success in the future. Regardless of your rank or position, in terms of ‘RN
Ethos – The Spirit to Fight and Win’, you therefore have a duty to: understand it; recognise the
pressures that could undermine it; and encourage, foster and preserve it. As members of the
Royal Navy we are expected to conduct ourselves to a high standard at all times. A handful
of simple guidelines should help:
a. We must obey:
• Civil Law, wherever we are serving.
• Service Law, which includes additional offences that are required to maintain
discipline and thus operational effectiveness; for example, absence without leave,
and insubordination
• The laws of armed conflict whenever we are on operations.
b. We must also avoid:
• Any activity which undermines our professional ability, or puts others at risk – in
particular the misuse of drugs and abuse of alcohol.
• Any behaviour which damages the trust, confidence and respect between us and
others in our team and unit. In particular, we must not:
• harass, bully, or discriminate against anyone, on any grounds.
• behave in a manner which could undermine good order and naval discipline
or tarnish the Naval Service’s long standing reputation.
 
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the answer to the question is ..... yes you can.

you can hang your own boiler, you can pay someone to sign it off (it happens on sites every day) but you wont find many will admit it. its a money thing.

you may find someone who will unlawfully 'help you out'. but, the lads on this forum want to see things done right, keep within the law and protect their reputation as the consequences are just not worth jeopridising a career for!...

if your lucky to find someone who will do that for you and it goes wrong in whatever way, you will not find them for dust and the responsibilty lies with you trying to defend yourself with the courts as the 'fitter' will know how to cover his tracks, you wont.
another one to note is, the chances of them not actually being registered legitimatley is something you take a risk on as thats easily faked too!.

your call......
 
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