toilet waste through floor: options?

[rsb123]

Cloakroom on ground floor has waste pipe exiting through concrete floor. Pipe starts 11cm from wall (so 16cm on centre). Can I get most any P trap toilet and a swan neck or flexi connector or do I have to go with the old style non-close-coupled toilets? thanks

 

[SimonJohns]

I doubt you'll get a close couple for that

 

[Resolute]

If you get a close-coupled and it's slightly out you could always build a false wall with a shelf.

 

[tamz]

A space saver connector will probably do you. If not get the Kango out.
| McAlpine Plumbing Products

 

[WHPES]

Space saver will only work if the footprint of the WC pan would not foul with the hole when up against the wall, and if there is enough clearance to get the space saver in there!

Safest stick with low level

 

[rsb123]

I don't like the looks of the low level toilets, but this one might do
Trading Depot - Vitra Arkitekt Low Level WC Pan, S Trap 6236

Might go with building out wall and using standard p trap close coupled with flexi connector

 

[tamz]

Twyford used to do a close coupled that was around 160 centre.
Don't know if they still do it.

 

[rsb123]

Thanks for the advice guys - I think I've decided to box out from wall so I can use a nice modern close coupled toilet with a 90 degree (down) connector. I can't see paying £250 or more for a basic (ie. white plastic flush pipe) low level wc that I will hate.

I know boxing behind toilet can end up looking naff, but I think I can keep the box just to width/height of cistern and paint it the same as wall so it's not as noticeable.

 

[wigz]

you could have a concealed cistern if your boxing out, will look even nicer with only the pan showing and the cistern inside the boxing

 

[rsb123]

Yes, we were looking at those modular concealed cistern units, but they all seem to be about 20-25cm deep, so front panel would sit right on top of soil pipe hole instead of in front of it. I'll give it a second look though down at the diy shop.

you could have a concealed cistern if your boxing out, will look even nicer with only the pan showing and the cistern inside the boxing

 

[WaterTight]

am i the only one who doesn't like the whole idea of a concealed cistern on a philosophical level

i think it's only partly based in aesthetics - the other is our revulsion as the toilet itself and what it represents. given half a chance we'd press a button and the whole toilet would slide silently behind a panel.

perhaps we'd take a pill if there was one and for-go the whole process.

i think we should do the opposite. we should revel in our bodily functions. the bathroom should have the toilet on a raised platform, up a small flight of stairs lined by bookcases of reading material. and the seat should vibrate. and before you flush it should weigh your leavings and a voice - perhaps a recording of a celebrity - should congratulate you when a particularly large offering is flushed.

ok, maybe not.

 

[tamz]

Build a bulkhead out as deep as you need, level with the window cill and fit a macdee hideaway cistern (about £25 - 50 depending on what version and flush mechanism) and a back to the wall wc from around £70 upwards.

 

[rsb123]

I always admire my handiwork on the throne.

am i the only one who doesn't like the whole idea of a concealed cistern on a philosophical level

i think it's only partly based in aesthetics - the other is our revulsion as the toilet itself and what it represents. given half a chance we'd press a button and the whole toilet would slide silently behind a panel.

perhaps we'd take a pill if there was one and for-go the whole process.

i think we should do the opposite. we should revel in our bodily functions. the bathroom should have the toilet on a raised platform, up a small flight of stairs lined by bookcases of reading material. and the seat should vibrate. and before you flush it should weigh your leavings and a voice - perhaps a recording of a celebrity - should congratulate you when a particularly large offering is flushed.

ok, maybe not.

 

[WaterTight]

i tell you what though, only fit a hidden cistern if you know what you're doing. i've visited more leaking concealed cisterns than any other type of toilet. usually flush pipe forced into a funny angle.