Toilet ball valve wont fully shut off.....

[jerry20]

I have recently changed a old toilet ball valve(bottom entry) for a new bottom entry ball valve, the old ball valve was filling near the correct water level then slowing down and then trickling for about 10mins before shutting off. The costumer was having to remove the cistern lid and raise the arm on the ball valve manually everytime the toilet was used. I changed the old valve for a new one, virtually the same, hoping this would solve the problem but no, it still does exactly the same thing. Ive tried adjusting the flow restictors, tried different ball floats, adjusted the mains pressure and still the same thing is happening! I am at a loose end i dont know what else to try! surly a brand new ball valve shouldnt be doing this. Iv actually tried two of the same bottom entry valves thinking the first one was faulty....... HELP!!!!

 

[SimonG]

Fluidmaster inlet valve.

 

[jerry20]

would I need to change the syphon or would it just be a straight swap? ball valve for fluid master?

 

[SimonG]

Straight swap.

 

[jerry20]

cheers pal

 

[Resolute]

Sounds like the ball valve is catching on something. Does it rub the syphon or cistern at all?

 

[jerry20]

no, it moves freely, when its about to reach the correct water level the flow of water slows down gradually but instead of shutting off it just trickles and passes for about 10mins or so.

 

[andymac]

Hello,

no, it moves freely, when its about to reach the correct water level the flow of water slows down gradually but instead of shutting off it just trickles and passes for about 10mins or so.

This is normal for cistern ballvalves.
Best Wishes
Andy

 

[glenno1]

I agree with fitting a fluid master

 

[Plumbstar Tom]

another one for fluid master, if you get it from a plumbrs merchant rather than a shed it has a metal thread rather than plastic

 

[Dormouse7]

Hi. I'm new here as I have the same problem - please do tell me nicely if I have to create my own post.

I have just replaced the valve system in the cistern and have a brand new bullcock but the water still raises too high and overflows. I think the ball is getting stuck on a bit of plastic that sticks out which the logo on the front fits into. Even if I move the ball, it stops just short of shutting the valve. The funny thing with the system I brought is the ball is on a flexible moving bit rather than solid. The ball moves towards the front of the cistern as it goes up - this happens if the arm is free or is stopped from floating to the bottom by pushing the arm against the syphon. There is a moving screw that I can move to adjust the flow but it doesn't seem to make any difference where ever it is. The valve will shut if I manually move it up a tiny bit but that's still an inch or so above the water line and just in line with the overflow.

I also wonder if replacing the syphon is worth doing as it is easily over 20years old?

I get what every one is saying about the fluidmaster but I just paid £17 for this today and am keen not to just bin it without trying to get it right!

Any ideas to try would be very much appreciated.

DM7 - first time toilet valve replacer

NB the kit I brought is here if of any use to anyone: [DLMURL]https://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=110&storeId=10151&partNumber=379509[/DLMURL]

 

[mjt]

Dudley ones are pretty good too

 

[Dormouse7]

Hi. I posted that I had the same problem last Friday, but it still hasn't been authorised by a mod

If this one does go up, please could someone proffer a solution as I just forked out £17 for my valve set so don't want to have to pay out again if a solution can be found.

Many thanks

DM

 

[Phil_Plumb]

Fluid Master all the way!

 

[andymac]

Hello,
Little bit off thread, I have always found Torbeck valves to be hit and miss, some good and some bad. I also agree with previous poster Dudley valves are really good, but they are angle cranked to fit 1960's cisterns that are huge and flush 2 gallons. If they made them straight stemmed they would be a real option.
Best Wishes
Andy

 

[PlumbersMate]

Any one fitted viva inlet valves! Cheaper than fluidmaster and work well IMO

 

[Resolute]

Any one fitted viva inlet valves! Cheaper than fluidmaster and work well IMO

I've used them loads of times. Seem to work ok and not had any call backs. Only come with a plastic shank though.

 

[Phil_Plumb]

i would put my whole weeks wages on fluidmaster products anytime, the pro versions come with a brass shank, meaning that on a friday afternoon just when the merchs have shut and you should be in the pub, its impossible to crossthread the nut due to thinking about beer!

Fluid Master Pro all day everyday!

 

[andymac]

Hello,
I like Delchem valves as many times over the years they have made me a good money in really easy repairs, the disintegrating rear fibre washer is a gift of a repair.
Best Wishes
Andy

 

[kris]

Hi guys a quickie about the inlet valves , i try and have as many different diaphram washer spares in the van but there are so many different ones out there now eh,, and some places charge silly money for them aswell i find,,,,, KRIS

 

[kris]

Sorry i didnt mean silly money just £5 per washer sometimes (online) not that id pay that,,