Spare a thought for the 2 million people....

[stevo72]

Spare a thought for the 2 million people who cannot afford any heating this winter or have faulty boilers and cannot afford to have them fixed. And many in comfortable lifestyles wonder why so many people use payday lenders. But of course as a country we can afford £12bn a year on foreign aid. Shame it can't be used to heat homes in Britain.

 

[Ray Stafford]

trouble is money is wasted take the latest boiler scheme free boilers for anyone on benifits basicly sounds good so far until you realise that it applies to rented properties as well so millionaire landlords renting to the poorest people get free boilers and the lanlord gets to keep his nine percent return
i cant imagine any landlords are going to be shipping tennants around to get a free boiler in all their flats

Can't argue with a word of that Steve. Almost all the schemes have been abused.

The trouble is that the actual implementation of the scheme is left to middle level civil servants, who are too easily led by vested interests, or not sufficiently worldly wise to out think people who stand to make fortunes out of twisting the rules.

 

[Nostrum]

Can't argue with a word of that Steve. Almost all the schemes have been abused.

The trouble is that the actual implementation of the scheme is left to middle level civil servants, who are too easily led by vested interests, or not sufficiently worldly wise to out think people who stand to make fortunes out of twisting the rules.

ECO (free boilers) doesn't come out the government pot.

 

[Ray Stafford]

ECO (free boilers) doesn't come out the government pot.

Not directly Sam, but do you think for one moment that the Utilities would fund it if not for pressure from HMG?

 

[Dotty]

Trouble is Jules, whilst there may be some egregious examples of individual tax avoiders, in general, It's the top few percent that pay by far the most tax. The top 1% paid nearly 30% of all income tax in 2013/14, and the top 10% pay well over half of all income tax.

Its too easy to blame bankers and politicians. The honest truth is that we get the politicians we deserve, and that whilst a handful of bankers deserve to go to prison, the vast majority are just as innocent as you and me.

I feel I should interject here to congratulate Ray on the correct and unexpected use of the word 'egregious'.

Probably the first time on this forum.

 

[Ray Stafford]

I feel I should interject here to congratulate Ray on the correct and unexpected use of the word 'egregious'.

Probably the first time on this forum.

It seemed an appropriate use of the word under the circumstances John. A very useful, yet under-employed adjective. Thanks for appreciating it.

[edit] A quick search uncovers 2 previous uses of the word on the forum, but I am afraid both cases are yours truly.

 

[Rickster123]

Googles getting worn out tonight...

 

[Nostrum]

Not directly Sam, but do you think for one moment that the Utilities would fund it if not for pressure from HMG?

Of course not but as the conversation was heading down the road of government spending I thought it right to mention the fact!

The problem is, do you let low income tenants go without to avoid the landlords from benefitting? If you do then you are almost victimising people who can't afford their own home.

The agenda is ticking the carbon saving box as opposed to truly helping out the vulnerable anyway!

 

[Dotty]

Googles getting worn out tonight...

Makes a change from the usual sites you often visit.

 

[julesverne]

Trouble is Jules, whilst there may be some egregious examples of individual tax avoiders, in general, It's the top few percent that pay by far the most tax. The top 1% paid nearly 30% of all income tax in 2013/14, and the top 10% pay well over half of all income tax.

Its too easy to blame bankers and politicians. The honest truth is that we get the politicians we deserve, and that whilst a handful of bankers deserve to go to prison, the vast majority are just as innocent as you and me.

thanks Ray for a word i have no idea what it means. I totally get your point as individuals we all pay tax But multinationals who syphon their profits to another country like Luxembourg to avoid tax at source is wrong morally even if its legal.

 

[stevetheplumber]

evidently of you want to avoid tax bank with hsbc

 

[lame plumber]

HSBC just been exposed for helping tax evasion, a football manager/ owner decided to give the HMRC some £147000 tax (a lot of money if this is wrong) when he was put in the limelight having hidden money in an offshore account and using a foreign credit card to spend his hidden stash, all done with the blessing of a UK bank, just been on the beeb news!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rickster123]

Benefits Britain on channel 5 now. Have a watch it will really cheer you all up!