Someone got to start this one 🤔

[king of pipes]

The gas safe website says they should be completed still.

Agreed H or completed up to 8 weeks prior to needing it , what I am saying is in these testing times ahead a modern well maintained boiler will not cause a major risk to health if left 3 months over its last service and gas safety check , there is a greater risk to the customer and ourselves of contracting or spreading this virus , we are being advised to keep away from eachother and common sense needs to be applied here. Look after your own health and that of your customers, I will be avoiding visiting multiple addresses and servicing appliances in favour of concentrating on work involving just one address and with the least amount of contact with people. Regards kop

 

[Jim Goodenough]

3 of my old farts who used to do medi gas have been contacted by our old sub contractor to see if they would go and put some streets in. Now they want me to factor the work like I used to do...
ie pay them and wait to get paid...It was a yes as Gordon the Moron who used to run the outfit in Brum has long gone and the new fella is offering way less than 100 days ...they do oxygen and vac all brazed with a nitrogen flood to blow any crap out. It appears there out of date certificates do not matter so it might be men in transits all over again ...my Mrs will go ballistic we used to disappear for 12 14 days
Centralheatking

Hi Rob, @centralheatking could I get into this type of work? What qualifications/certificates are required?
Cheers Jim

 

[centralheatking]

Hi Rob, @centralheatking could I get into this type of work? What qualifications/certificates are required?
Cheers Jim

I will ask what are/we’re their certs and training ..watch out tho it was for us bank holidays xmas etc and they worked on a set hours contract for each job which I used to argue with Gordon the Moron about before we turned up and sometimes when we arrived and had to threaten to drive away unless we got more. The work was dead easy really, and I only got paid after the medical pharmacist passed the street often a week or many later

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

Are we classed as Key Workers? (Plumbers/Heating Engineers) Getting conflicting messages...

 

[Chuck]

Are we classed as Key Workers? (Plumbers/Heating Engineers) Getting conflicting messages...

Here's the list for whether you are 'key' enough for a school to look after your kids:

[Withdrawn] Children of critical workers and vulnerable children who can access schools or educational settings

www.gov.uk

Plumbing and heating engineers per se aren't on it. It's possible that a small number might qualify because they are necessary to keep essential services running but that'll be the exception rather than the rule.

There may be other lists but I'm not aware of them.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Here you go mate
Plumbing and heating operatives to be ‘Key Workers’ - https://www.phamnews.co.uk/plumbing-and-heating-operatives-to-be-key-workers/

 

[centralheatking]

Are we classed as Key Workers? (Plumbers/Heating Engineers) Getting conflicting messages...

It matters not, I cannot see a policeman or soldier restricting our activities attending call outs.
As long as the truck is sign written and or we have papers these boys will let us go by.
It will be the same approach as in Northern Ireland when there were checkpoints. I know a bit I was
There around and about centralheatking

 

[SimonG]

And the hhic says exactly the opposite.

 

[Harvest Fields]

And gas safe are still saying safety checks need doing.

 

[AWheating]

Think an 18 year old with underlined health condition has been the youngest in the uk. Joe Rogan has a specialist on his podcast and he seemed to think it will be 15 times worst than a bad flu season with 250,000 plus deaths worldwide. He said data was showing over 40's and the percentage goes up quite alot.

Im now in self isolation, I have my mother living with me and she is nearly 80 and has stage 4 lung cancer. I can't risk bringing it back to her as I don't think she would survive it. I started Friday and I'm already bored, be out of bread and milk in 2-3 days.

I've already done 1 job from home, I soldered up some pipework tails for a customer for them to change there own sink taps. Worked a treat.

Be save everybody, take it seriously and protect your family.

 

[centralheatking]

And the hhic says exactly the opposite.

What’s hhic please

Think an 18 year old with underlined health condition has been the youngest in the uk. Joe Rogan has a specialist on his podcast and he seemed to think it will be 15 times worst than a bad flu season with 250,000 plus deaths worldwide. He said data was showing over 40's and the percentage goes up quite alot.

Im now in self isolation, I have my mother living with me and she is nearly 80 and has stage 4 lung cancer. I can't risk bringing it back to her as I don't think she would survive it. I started Friday and I'm already bored, be out of bread and milk in 2-3 days.

I've already done 1 job from home, I soldered up some pipework tails for a customer for them to change there own sink taps. Worked a treat.

Be save everybody, take it seriously and protect your family.

well done You have made the same decision i would have made regarding my parents ...they passed on years ago. Don’t be bored talk to us or me if you like I am about most mornings from 4am ..pm me and we can do my email if you like ..regards Rob Foster

 

[SimonG]

Heat and hot water industry council

 

[centralheatking]

Heat and hot water industry council

So the HHIc are another toothless wonder ...we should all worry about contravening their procrastinations ...NOT ...and just carry on ...Centralheatking Bluntly the RSPCA have more power

 

[clarky101]

And gas safe are still saying safety checks need doing.

Tenants don’t want me in the properties to do these though....

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

Tenants don’t want me in the properties to do these though..

What's new? They'll be on the phone when their boiler ain't working.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Tenants don’t want me in the properties to do these though..

Then that is different. You have shown that you have tried to gain access. Go on the gas safe website. There is a whole section on it.

 

[Ziggie]

Morning chaps sitting here watching the early morning news this cronavirus business is really getting a hold now , two families I know have had holiday's cancelled to Spain, this is going to effect us all personally and business wise I am lucky enough to have a shower upgrade a weeks work for a retired couple who are happy to have me in their home , then a full gas central heating job in a empty property to do so won't effect my work situation for the next 3 weeks or so. I have a elderly mother with asthma who lives alone who I am obviously conserved about she lives a 2 hour drive away and getting her to stay in will drive her stir crazy I am seriously considering bring her to stay with us for a month or so, how are you all coping with the problem ? Supermarket shelves are being stripped of basic essentials and I can see this getting worse your opinions please gentlemen. Keep well regards kop

You might be too late but I booked online shopping and that’s worked in the last two weeks
Your problem is coming back if she is at your home if you can’t keep 2 metres from everyone.
My daughter returned home after catching it at school and my wife is in the added risk group.
We all have it but so far it has been mild and if we get through it we should be immune for the rest of the year.
It’s tough but we are using social media to keep in touch - expect letter stating stay in for 3 months any day noe

 

[king of pipes]

Now watching Boris on TV he's brought in even more restrictions people just didn't take it seriously enough over the weekend we are heading for full lockdown by the look of it , I spoke to my mother tonight and she not coping very well and it's only a few days in really don't know what to do for the best ? Kop

 

[Ric2013]

Well, that's good. So the UK is now where we (Italy) were on the 11th as far as restrictions go (though it's less clear how the authorities are going to police things), but the UK has half the official cases Italy had back then.

Which hopefully means the UK should be able to manage things better than Italy has been able to, due to taking action relatively sooner.

Hoorah!

PS Italy has put plumbers down as an essential service and plumbers can continue to go to work. In practice, most people are scared and won't want plumbers in their houses for non-essential work.

 

[Jones82]

The key wording seemed to be "You can travel to and from work only if you can't work from home"

Now obviously we can't work from home and nor can most trades.

However if the merchants close because they are a "non essential business" then the materials will dry up... so the building sites may close....?

 

[gmartine]

I was trying to find the figures on how long the virus lasts on surfaces, the best I could find was...


4hrs on copper
24hrs on card
48hr on stainless steel
72hrs on plastic

albeit the amount of active virus remaining after 72hrs is miniscule (0.1%), still if you can arrange some of your work accordingly it may helpful.

 

[centralheatking]

Hi Rob, @centralheatking could I get into this type of work? What qualifications/certificates are required?
Cheers Jim

I understand it’s all regulated by BOC no surprise there, but for experienced fellas it is a bit of a tick box exercise and a practical remember. It’s not soldering but brazing but with good quality medical quality fittings all individually wrapped but essentially the same stuff but really expensive. And health service standards apply to all the work. We did alright out of it Centralheatking

 

[king of pipes]

Well chaps that's me done now I will be staying home for 3 weeks minimum, staying positive it's a chance to get a few jobs done at home , we need to protect our customers and ourselves in this challenging time, take care all and stay well. Kop

 

[Stu-B]

Yep same here, last job today then that’s me done til who-knows-when. I’ve told all the landlords I won’t be doing gas safety checks for a bit but will still go out to emergency stuff. Testing times ahead now, hope it doesn’t last too long or I’ll be proper skint.

“it’s all right for you mate, you’re self employed you can do what you want” my pal used to say that to me all the time!!... Hmmmm!!

Stay safe lads

 

[Jim09876]

I would not allow a gas inspection to become out of date if it was my tenants. I just know should the worse happen I would still end up in the dock.

On a separate note, can’t see why construction guys working way up high in the fresh air can’t continue. P Morgan sat at very close quarters talking s***

 

[Harvest Fields]

I would not allow a gas inspection to become out of date if it was my tenants. I just know should the worse happen I would still end up in the dock.

On a separate note, can’t see why construction guys working way up high in the fresh air can’t continue. P Morgan sat at very close quarters talking s***

They are currently being delayed not cancelled. Gas safe are still waiting for an answer on Landlord checks from the HSE. But I think that it is correct they are delayed for now.

 

[WC1]

How long does it last on surfaces - Dr. John will tell you:
View: https://youtu.be/JNQUHc8wbRc
Also generally good info on transmission

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Mot tests have been given a 6 month extension and I suspect landlord checks will go a similar way
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[centralheatking]

One of the issues which I hope will be looked at after things get back to normal. Is the total lack of cash reserves by really quite large companies ...they cry wolf after 3 days and yet pay their investors dividends. Also it might be a heads up to everbody to try and look a bit beyond their next pay check and just save a little for a rainy day instead of expensive coffee to go and £40 per month phones
Centralheatking

 

[Harvest Fields]

I wish my phone was £40.00 a month.

 

[centralheatking]

I wish my phone was £40.00 a month.

I thought there are flat rate use as much as you can deals. I have a couple of phones and a landline but use email via WiFi at home and anywhere I can get it...even follow buses if it’s a bigger package and wait while they stop. I don’t think we spend £40 per month total inc BT. Don’t buy expensive coffee at £3.oo a tub and always take my own sandwiches unless invited out to Lunch
Centralheatking

 

[Ric2013]

I thought there are flat rate use as much as you can deals. I have a couple of phones and a landline but use email via WiFi at home and anywhere I can get it...even follow buses if it’s a bigger package and wait while they stop. I don’t think we spend £40 per month total inc BT. Don’t buy expensive coffee at £3.oo a tub and always take my own sandwiches unless invited out to Lunch
Centralheatking

Perhaps the reason for the high cost is buying the phone on a contract and getting the data you may need for eg IOMs when needing information on the go? Though I own my own (non-smart) phone and pay £6 a month myself, I appreciate this isn't for everyone.

 

[Jones82]

Why is it that the individual needs money for a rainy day but when banks or large companies struggle they come cap in hand to the taxpayer? Remember the billions that went to the banks 2010? One thing I'm glad to see in this crisis is money actually going to the people that need it and from a tory government! Wonders never cease

 

[WC1]

Banks and big business will be getting their cut first, don't you worry...

 

[centralheatking]

Banks and big business will be getting their cut first, don't you worry...

Just look at all the money held in solicitors client accounts because nobody can buy or sell houses but they will earn interest on that money. Then there are large companies who have paid massive dividends out recently but now need government .help to carry on. Example Rick Stein with places everywhere charging the earth now closed down is not paying his staff anything...this all sucks and I am not a socialist but self employed but with some resources only because I am old....I hope the fall out from this crisis changes everbodies outlook for ever after it’s moved on
Centralheatking

 

[turnpin]

On a lighter note my oldest son was rushed into Hospital last night with high temp and breathing difficulties sore throat and aches and pains....just heard he is coming home has a severe chest infection put on intravenous anti biotic and steroids and oxygen sending him home with meds .......meanwhile my Brother and also my Brother in law are slowly recovering in different hospitals from Covid-19 GOD BLESS OUR NATIONAL HEALTH AND ALL THE STAFF frontline to behind the scenes......I for one would not mind paying a bit more tax/ National In insurance to make sure we maintain some of the best health care in the world......look after yourselves and your families......regards Turnpin

 

[centralheatking]

On a lighter note my oldest son was rushed into Hospital last night with high temp and breathing difficulties sore throat and aches and pains....just heard he is coming home has a severe chest infection put on intravenous anti biotic and steroids and oxygen sending him home with meds ...meanwhile my Brother and also my Brother in law are slowly recovering in different hospitals from Covid-19 GOD BLESS OUR NATIONAL HEALTH AND ALL THE STAFF frontline to behind the scenes....I for one would not mind paying a bit more tax/ National In insurance to make sure we maintain some of the best health care in the world....look after yourselves and your families....regards Turnpin

We will think about your family and yes a bit more put into the NHs is obviously a foregone conclusion after all this and all due respect must be given to the forgotten but vital workers in society whom we now really value.

 

[king of pipes]

Godbless our NHS staff the selfless dedication they have shown is just amazing , I hope the members of your family effected make a speedy recovery. Regards kop

 

[gmartine]

They are currently being delayed not cancelled. Gas safe are still waiting for an answer on Landlord checks from the HSE. But I think that it is correct they are delayed for now.

If it hasn't been mentioned car and van MOT's have been exempted for 6 months, my tester told me after handing me my fail certificate with a bundle of work to have done a couple of weeks back grrrr.
.

[Withdrawn] Vehicle owners to be granted MOT exemption in battle against coronavirus

Temporary exemption will enable vital services to continue, frontline workers to get to work, and people to get essential food and medicine during the COVID-19 outbreak.

www.gov.uk

 

[turnpin]

Just a quick update my Brother in Law is home this evening resting as he is still quite weak my Sister posted on social media that it was very emotional as all the staff lined the corridor and applauded him for surviving this dreadful virus.......my Brother continues to make a slow recovery although he's still in Hospital....and my Son is recovering at home from his severe chest infection...God Bless all the staff frontline and those behind the scenes they make us proud and to all those key workers that have kept us all going at this very difficult time.......take care of yourselves and your families..regards Turnpin

 

[Sparkgap]

Got furloughed for three weeks (all those outstanding jobs at home got done!!! -well, mostly ) now been back at work for a month: despite the lockdown we've still got tons of enquiries coming in, the estimators ae working from home trying to look after their kids and turn out a zillion tenders at the same time. Load more of our fitters are coming back as sites reopen, however still got most of the office staff either furloughed or working from home.

 

[SimonG]

Interesting to look back at this one.

 

[king of pipes]

Morning chaps sitting here watching the early morning news this cronavirus business is really getting a hold now , two families I know have had holiday's cancelled to Spain, this is going to effect us all personally and business wise I am lucky enough to have a shower upgrade a weeks work for a retired couple who are happy to have me in their home , then a full gas central heating job in a empty property to do so won't effect my work situation for the next 3 weeks or so. I have a elderly mother with asthma who lives alone who I am obviously conserved about she lives a 2 hour drive away and getting her to stay in will drive her stir crazy I am seriously considering bring her to stay with us for a month or so, how are you all coping with the problem ? Supermarket shelves are being stripped of basic essentials and I can see this getting worse your opinions please gentlemen. Keep well regards kop

Here we go again chaps back where we started in March i am bringing mum down today she wont cope another lockdown , gutted we now cant vist our new grandaughter it was all arranged for next weekend keep posting chap keep us all our sprits up and sane. Kind regards kop

 

[Jim09876]

It’s a load of bollocks in my opinion. I have a elderly relative who’s 95, she’s big into the church community and seems to know thousands of old folks....she’s regularly at funerals pre and post covid, strange how she’s not mentioned one Covid related death.

 

[Ric2013]

It’s a load of bollocks in my opinion. I have a elderly relative who’s 95, she’s big into the church community and seems to know thousands of old folks....she’s regularly at funerals pre and post covid, strange how she’s not mentioned one Covid related death.

There are people on this thread who have relatives who have Covid.

 

[Jim09876]

There are people on this thread who have relatives who have Covid.

There are people on this thread who have relatives who have Covid.

I’m not surprised...seems like since they started testing everyone, loads of people already have it and don’t even have any symptoms.

 

[gmartine]

I’m not surprised...seems like since they started testing everyone, loads of people already have it and don’t even have any symptoms.

That is certainly true but it has still killed alot of vulnerable folks and your elderly relative who is a magnificent age may just be fortunate or not mentioned the fact that their deaths were Covid related. Besides the fact that she can't attend church or funeral during lockdown (limited attendance at least) respectfully she has probably outlived the majority of her friends anyway and well before the arrival of Covid.

 

[Jim09876]

That is certainly true but it has still killed alot of vulnerable folks and your elderly relative who is a magnificent age may just be fortunate or not mentioned the fact that their deaths were Covid related. Besides the fact that she can't attend church or funeral during lockdown (limited attendance at least) respectfully she has probably outlived the majority of her friends anyway and well before the arrival of Covid.

You know old woman are on the phone right? Constantly gossiping!

It just seems now all kids are back at school, BM bargains and Lidl is like Black Friday every day....Covid is out there and done it’s worsts.

I really do feel for those folk who hang off the governments every word. Anyway you make your point very well & cheers

 

[king of pipes]

Careful what you say Jim there are people on here who had family and friends who have died from covid the first lock down we as a family avoided it completely, but this second time we have had ten members of our extended family who have had it tested and diagnosed luckily they have all recovered, but this is not over by along way and sadly more innocent people will loose there lives before their time, 40 elderly people have contracted covid in a care home in Gorleston brought in a staff member who is now very unwell herself she is only in her late thirties, four of the staff members regularly visit Gregg's for coffees and food stuff where my wife works so obviously this is a worry. Keep well all kop

 

[oz-plumber]

It’s a load of bollocks in my opinion. I have a elderly relative who’s 95, she’s big into the church community and seems to know thousands of old folks....she’s regularly at funerals pre and post covid, strange how she’s not mentioned one Covid related death.

She may not have heard of or understands Covid.
She is a lucky one, pure luck or genetic luck that she is fit and well.
There are plenty of people dying 25 - 30 years younger than her.

You can, but really shouldn't use her for / as an example whether the Covid Virus exists.

 

[gmartine]

My old man who smoked since he was 12 and died just over 20 years ago always used to say to his nagging kids that we shouldn't worry because he knew someone who had a 60 a day habit and lived to be 98. Unfortunately he wasn't one of those and died about 40 yrs short after coughing his lungs up into my lap and dying in my arms. He didn't die of Covid but he did die of a preventable disease and Covid is preventable if the necessary precautions are taken but there are always exceptions, always outliers.