Price to fit heating system from scratch.

[armyash]

Hi everyone,

been to look at a job, current set up is unvented cylinder with storage heaters. Customer has had a gas meter put in and wants a combi boiler put in. 1 bathroom and en-suite shower. She wants the unvented cylinder gone.

Job requires gas run in 28mm.

all new rads, valves etc. Not a massive property. 6 rads, 1 towel warmer. Downstairs on drops. 3 bedrooms.

Wirelesss stat.

Chemicals.

I know its a hard question to answer without seeing the job. 2 of us doing it, we don't seen any major hurdles. Looking for a ball park figure what you would all charge. We have a rough idea from getting a price for materials, have priced for budget rads and controls. I don't want to over charge but then I dont want to under charge and come unstuck.

Any pointers would be great. Thanks.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

5-8k ish ish

 

[armyash]

5-8k ish ish

Thanks, I will hopefully get more replies and I will say what price we have in mind.

 

[Scott_D]

£5k depending on boiler

 

[Harvest Fields]

Shouldn’t this be in the gas safe only section and not the arms as we are talking about pricing a heating system (I know it isn’t about gas)

 

[armyash]

£5k depending on boiler

40kw vogue

 

[ShaunCorbs]

around 6k then

 

[Riley]

Is a combi with two bathrooms wise??

 

[Harvest Fields]

Is a combi with two bathrooms wise??

No. But people still fit them.

 

[SimonG]

6.5 to 7 with an oil combi

 

[armyash]

Out the 2 of us, my mate has more experience and he reckons the Vogue will handle it.

 

[Old Account]

40kw vogue

Why 40kw?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Out the 2 of us, my mate has more experience and he reckons the Vogue will handle it.

Won’t with two showers running but it may with a basin and shower with flow restrictors on the basin

Best option is elec shower on one of them

 

[Old Account]

If mains is poor pressure you won’t get what the mis states. I’d rather go with unvented

 

[armyash]

thanks for the replies, we'll have a chat tomorrow and see whats best. Unvented would probably be the best option. i'll see if the customer would be prepared to stick with unvented.

 

[Harvest Fields]

When you did your site visit. Was it them that mentioned combi or you?

 

[Harvest Fields]

No. But people still fit them.

Did I say something wrong @Riley ?

 

[Old Account]

Combi will give headache later on

 

[Riley]

@Harvest Fields Sorry fella no idea how I did that

 

[Millsy 82]

How many people live in the property?

I understand what people say when they say fit an unvented because its 2 bathrooms but if there is only say a couple living there then a combi will prob be fine just as long as they dont expect to both have a shower at the same time.

What is the flow rate like? I've been asked several times to fit a 40kw combi but the water flow rate was lower than what the combi could deliver so ended up with a 33kw.

 

[Harvest Fields]

What happens when the 2 people move out and 4/5 move in and hot water demand goes up?

 

[Millsy 82]

What happens when the 2 people move out and 4/5 move in and hot water demand goes up?

What happen if they spend the next 60 years there?

I dont do work on my house thinking what will the next person want I do it for what I would like. If the next people dont like it they can change it.

I would say because you have 2 bathrooms I would advise that an unvented cylinder would suit the house better but as it's only the 2 of you living here then a combi would be fine for you as long as you realise that you will struggle to run 2 taps at the same time. If the next people dont like it because they have 6 kids then they can rip it out and fit a 400ltr unvented if that's what they choose.

 

[Harvest Fields]

I am confused, Are you agreeing or disagreeing?

 

[Millsy 82]

I am confused, Are you agreeing or disagreeing?

Obviously disagree.

 

[Harvest Fields]

I would say because you have 2 bathrooms I would advise that an unvented cylinder would suit the house better.

But here you agree???

 

[Millsy 82]

But here you agree???

Is that all I wrote? Maybe carry on reading the whole post before making stupid comments.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Is that all I wrote? Maybe carry on reading the whole post before making stupid comments.

All I’m saying is in part you agree and then in others you don’t? No need to get shirty about it. Everyone has their own opinions and I was saying that it is best practice to fit a system with unvented when more than 1 bath or shower is fitted. What’s the point of having 2 showers if they cannot be used at the same time.

 

[Millsy 82]

All I’m saying is in part you agree and then in others you don’t? No need to get shirty about it. Everyone has their own opinions and I was saying that it is best practice to fit a system with unvented when more than 1 bath or shower is fitted. What’s the point of having 2 showers if they cannot be used at the same time.

No but it's not best practice to fit a system with unvented when more than 1 bath or shower.

Best practice would be to install a system that meets the requirements of the customers and THEIR future needs.

And that is quite clearly what my post said.

 

[armyash]

uh oh what have I started lol

To answer the questions
There's 2 people living in the property
It was the customer who suggested a combi.

 

[armyash]

what about keeping the current cylinder and putting in a boiler for the rads?

 

[armyash]

We've just had a chat and he is adamant the vogue will be fine but said if i'm unsure then we will stick with unvented.

 

[Sharp Point]

thanks for the replies, we'll have a chat tomorrow and see whats best. Unvented would probably be the best option. i'll see if the customer would be prepared to stick with unvented.

If she’s all electric, the unvented maybe/ probably a direct cylinder... so staying with it and using a boiler is a no goer.

 

[Jim Goodenough]

If she’s all electric

"She's Electric"........

 

[Sharp Point]

"She's Electric".

She’s got a family full of eccentrics

 

[Scott_D]

Did you get the job @armyash