Likely a stupid question

[Riley]

Apologies if this is a dumb question but is it against gas regs to swage a copper gas pipe?

 

[Aquarius]

Wouldn’t have thought so, it’s still a joint?

 

[Riley]

That’s what I was thinking. I happened to come across last years gas safety cert at a property I was working in and the engineer had marked it down

 

[Last Plumber]

I don't think so as long as it has the correct depth of socket.

 

[Last Plumber]

Last time I checked, flattening, rolling and soldering an end was still acceptable.

 

[Riley]

Hmmm so this is a correctly formed socket not the best solder job I grant you but gas tight and as far as we know, to regs

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Nope your fine

 

[Scott_D]

I cant see an issue. Is it any weaker then pulling a 90

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Nope same also the twitter lot only do them these days

 

[Aquarius]

Nope same also the twitter lot only do them these days

PB and the likes?

 

[Riley]

Actually now you’ve said that I think I saw the other day someone saying illegal swaged gas pipe to PB. Were they just winding up?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

You can and it’s got it’s own bs number can’t remember but it’s in the viper book

 

[Riley]

Thanks mate

 

[Riley]

Following up with this I bought some swaging drill bits. 15mm bloody brilliant 22mm not so much. Doesn’t seem to make a deep enough socket for the pipe to push into, the bit is marked 7/8” so is 22.2mm is this a big enough socket?? I can’t really see what else I could be doing wrong other than a poorly manufactured bit? Anyone know of a decent 22mm swage bit?

 

[Riley]

Bump

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Get the grinder on it to remove the lip will let you go deeper

yes should be as copper varies dia and wall thickness

 

[Riley]

Cheers mate it just felt like I wasn’t able to insert the male pipe far enough. Perhaps only 4-5mm going in

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I see so it’s not fully going in try heating up the copper first or you do need some pressure forcing down into the pipe

 

[Riley]

Goes all the way in to the stopper but doesn’t seem to make a full socket. Was wondering if 7/8 was big enough

 

[ShaunCorbs]

 

[Harvest Fields]

They look awesome. How much are they. Sorry if it has been posted already. How thin does it make the copper after use?

 

[Riley]

I’m dead impressed. So quick. Just having my 22mm issue like I say

 

[gmartine]

I opened a thread on this a while back, they were quite expensive at the time I think around £30 a piece.

 

[Riley]

Maybe I need to buy a better one. Mine weren’t expensive

 

[Riley]

I opened a thread on this a while back, they were quite expensive at the time I think around £30 a piece.
Do you recall the brand mate. Sorry to tread on toes

 

[gmartine]

Not at all. Actually cost more - 22mm is over £40, links are at the end of this thread.

Swaging spin tool.

Never really bothered too much with my manual swager but quite like this quick and tidy result, available in new year apparently. Nicked off Pb Plumber's instagram account, hate that guy....guns too big and van far too tidy, clearly plenty of time on his hands :)

www.plumbersforums.net

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I’m still hoping someone will design something that you can cut the pipe out of a fitting like the yanks do eg socket saver

 

[Riley]

Just took the plunge. Bought a better 22mm. I like this tool

 

[gmartine]

I'm curious as to why the imperial 7/8 was so Rubbish, I might get a crap set and have a play. I like using my monument former when I get a chance but obviously you've got to form it while it's being hand held rather than already half clipped to the wall.

 

[Riley]

Well let me know how you get on I got mine on flea bay just to try them so I’m not too bothered as they were a cheap way to test the process

 

[Aquarius]

I’m still hoping someone will design something that you can cut the pipe out of a fitting like the yanks do eg socket saver

For copper pipe?

 

[Riley]

I’m intrigued too

 

[ShaunCorbs]

For copper pipe?

waste pipe

 

[gmartine]

There was a link to something similar in an enquiry thread showing a long vertical waste pipe that had cracked feeding into what looked to be some sort of inspection base. Ahh just seen it and like you said earlier Shaun, a socket saver.

 

[gmartine]

I’m still hoping someone will design something that you can cut the pipe out of a fitting like the yanks do eg socket saver

Got any mates across the pond, you can get'em on Amazon, £12 each and £60 delivery.

 

[Riley]

That’s steep p&p

 

[ShaunCorbs]

They don’t use the same dia pipe do they ?