HELP! Is this normal practice for plumbing in a shower?

[Aire]

Wouldn't the thatched roof be sufficient insulation?

 

[Welder]

Wouldn't the thatched roof be sufficient insulation?

I wouldn't have thought so. The roof needs to breath so that would let huge amounts of heat out. As the roof deteriorates, its insulative performance degrades too.

 

[Harvest Fields]

To be honest, the £300 you paid the plumber is the least of your worries. You are currently setting fire to £50 notes every single day of your life in that house with no insulation. The fact the elbows are not lagged is utterly irrelevant as the heat escaping into the loft will keep it frost free for eternity.

It looks to me like someone has done the best job they can for the price that won the job. I'd not bash the plumber till I'd heard their side of the tale.

Bit OTT isn’t it Dave. The £50 notes every day comment I mean

 

[Welder]

Bit OTT isn’t it Dave. The £50 notes every day comment I mean

It's a similie Wayne The point is to encourage OP to prioritise ...

 

[Harvest Fields]

It's a similie Wayne The point is to encourage OP to prioritise .

A similie? Oh yeah, my 9 year old is teaching me about them at the minute. Like, as strong as an Ox.

 

[Welder]

A similie? Oh yeah, my 9 year old is teaching me about them at the minute. Like, as strong as an Ox.

Or as untidy as a Sparks

 

[Harvest Fields]

Or as untidy as a Sparks

I like that one.

 

[Stu-B]

Is the lagging fire resistant/retardant (or whatever) ? Looks to me as though the wiring is that old school orange pyro stuff and it’s red modern equivalent due to the thatched roof.

 

[Welder]

You're right there's some pyro but most is PVC TW&E so someone has worked on it on the cheap for sure.

The lagging is std polyethelene so about as fire retardant as a can of 4star petrol!

 

[richard978]

Thatched roof?
I would do any hot works up there

Yes my thoughts, nothing wrong with plastic at all and in those circumstances it's one of two options. Crimped or plastic.

You would be a fool to do hot working up there. Do not solder up there you will void your insurance


It needs clips because of the vibrations from the pump could make excessive noise. Remember these are oak joists and you can't screw into them, oak eats metal and hard as concrete when it's old. Better to fix ply below and fix pipe etc to the ply.

Insulation required but I doubt that loft gets cold because of the thatched roof

 

[Ben Slade]

Or stainless steel screws resist the acid given off by oak. Marine quality ones are the best being an ex Marine myself you gotta go with what you know