Fixing cistern with no screw holes to the wall?

[Frenchy316]

Hi Guys. I have to secure a 'wobbly' toilet cistern to the wall, only it has no existing screw holes? and I wondered what would be the best way to secure this? I have heard of people using a basin bracket? or sealant near to the top of the cistern? Thanks in advance

 

[ADM360]

If I have n a cistern with no hole I just put 2 small blobs of silcone at the top of the cistern and push the cistern back on to it.
don't put to much back there, remember you may have to go back and take it off again!!

Cheers for now.

 

[snowhead]

As ^^^^
Or 2 beads across the top of the cistern just below the lid, so you can get a knife in if needed to cut it out at another time.

It's amazing how well it holds, when you don't want it to..

 

[Riley]

Unlike some Berkley that I attended and had nicely pasted silicone all over the back :mad2:

 

[ADM360]

even better when it's gripfill!!

 

[Riley]

Dunno why people do it. Everything in this place was siliconed hate hate hate it

 

[Howsie]

Drill holes in it.

 

[moogwai]

Drill holes in it.

Pmsl :-D

 

[Killy Bing]

Find an excuse to change the flush valve to a servicible one if you have to mastic the back!

and the fill valve if it isn't accessible

 

[Dotty]

Pmsl :-D

Not so daft. ********* specialise in this sort of thing.

 

[SimonG]

Two dabs of silicone for me. But it shouldnt really be wobbling.

 

[moogwai]

Not so daft. ********* specialise in this sort of thing.

Never done it, never seen it done....and if I tried it would be pooing myself! :-S

 

[SimonG]

Never done it, never seen it done....and if I tried it would be pooing myself! :-S

Well thats all right cos you could do it whilst sat on the crapper

 

[Howsie]

Easy to do. Have you never angle grinded the back off a pan where it meets the floor? That's a twitch moment.

 

[Howsie]

Never done it, never seen it done....and if I tried it would be pooing myself! :-S

That's why this place is special. We are passing on tricks of the trade.

 

[ADM360]

Easy to do. Have you never angle grinded the back off a pan where it meets the floor? That's a twitch moment.

Once!! very twitchy wouldn't want to again though!!

 

[Koogatubac]

Once i know nothings leaking and know im not going to need to take the cistern off then i put STICKSALL or NO NAILS squirted behind cistern

These screwless cisterns are normally on half back to the wall pans, where theres limited access. Just did a big project with 5 of them, all victoria plumb range

 

[ADM360]

Once i know nothings leaking and know im not going to need to take the cistern off then i put STICKSALL or NO NAILS squirted behind cistern

These screwless cisterns are normally on half back to the wall pans, where theres limited access. Just did a big project with 5 of them, all victoria plumb range

Hope you don't get any call backs on them then!!

 

[armyash]

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Is this porsadrill set worth getting? anyone got it?

 

[Howsie]

Yep. Good as gold.

 

[Frenchy316]

Thanks guys, extremely helpful as always! I had thought of using a porcelain drill bit, yet the thought alone makes me touch cloth!lol I will proceed with the sealant option! Thanks again

 

[Centralheatking]

near the top i suggest CHK

Drill holes in it.

 

[midlands based]

Just a bit of advice, if you do have a cistern siliconed back with loads on it, use a standard woodsaw from the top. Saws through it in seconds.

 

[armyash]

Might have to get a set. got pretty much all the tools i need for now so might start getting bits like this. Will make jobs so much easier and look a lot better.

 

[tomplumb83]

All this talk of ceramic reminds of when I watched a kitchen fitter rigorously hitting the tap hole cut out on a ceramic kitchen sink with a hammer. It was supposed to be my job buti sat there and cringed with terror. Shortly after he cracked it. 300-400 sink. I tapped the replacement out. Another twitch moment

 

[BN9Pete]

Unlike some Berkley that I attended and had nicely pasted silicone all over the back :mad2:

even better when it's gripfill!!

Once i know nothings leaking and know im not going to need to take the cistern off then i put STICKSALL or NO NAILS squirted behind cistern

These screwless cisterns are normally on half back to the wall pans, where theres limited access. Just did a big project with 5 of them, all victoria plumb range

Ooops Koogatubac, not a good idea mate.
:nono:

 

[BN9Pete]

If I have n a cistern with no hole I just put 2 small blobs of silcone at the top of the cistern and push the cistern back on to it.
don't put to much back there, remember you may have to go back and take it off again!!

Cheers for now.

What he said!!
100% correct way of doing things.

 

[BN9Pete]

Just a bit of advice, if you do have a cistern siliconed back with loads on it, use a standard woodsaw from the top. Saws through it in seconds.

This is the only way I have found to remove a cistern that has been totally siliconed to the wall.

 

[WHPES]

An easier way - use a guitar high E string wrapped around two file handles and use like a cheese wire. Doesnt ruin the saw or make scratch marks on the tiles.

 

[BN9Pete]

An easier way - use a guitar high E string wrapped around two file handles and use like a cheese wire. Doesnt ruin the saw or make scratch marks on the tiles.

Nice idea but my local PTS were out of guitar strings when I last had to remove a siliconed to the wall cistern!!!

 

[WHPES]

Scrounge a used one and keep it in your van.

 

[Best]

Beware if gluing a cistern to a wall that if the floor later moves or shrinks a little - as with new builds, that the cistern will take all the strain & split open, especially if somebody heavy is sat on the pot!
I saw a siliconed cistern on a shrunk wood floor suddenly do this & flood water everywhere & nobody was near it!

 

[Best]

An easier way - use a guitar high E string wrapped around two file handles and use like a cheese wire. Doesnt ruin the saw or make scratch marks on the tiles.

Always thought of a cheese wire, or fine braided wire for exactly that! Never used one though.

 

[WHPES]

There was a youtube video a while ago where someone cut through PE waste pipe using fishing line braid.

 

[CXR100]

as a farmer's son i find that cattle de-horning wire is good for removing silacones cisterns!

 

[Chalked]

An easier way - use a guitar high E string wrapped around two file handles and use like a cheese wire. Doesnt ruin the saw or make scratch marks on the tiles.

Damn!! I've only got a "D"

 

[BN9Pete]

Scrounge a used one and keep it in your van.

Anyone got Eric Clapton's phone number??

 

[mountainman]

cattle de-horning wire

The thought brings tears to my eyes. :-$