Connecting Soil Pipe To Pan

[DazJWood]

I have changed the orientation of my new toilet. It has moved from the wall it was originally on to the wall next to it. This means I am now taking the connection to the soil stack around one corner and then into the toilet at it's new position.

I am boxing all the pipework in and will have a concealed cistern (once again I will be building the boxing for this too).

I have taken the soil pipe along the first wall (from the stack), used a 90 (or 92.5 to be exact), to take it around the corner, a further short length of 110 pipe and then the connection to the pan. The latter of which I have thought long and hard about and looked at various different connections.

I really want to avoid using flexible pipe if I can help it. I've no experience, good or bad, with using it but as a preference would like to avoid it if I can.

The usual 90 degree pan connectors will not work as I need to use it horizontally and once pushed into the back of the pan they come out at an angle. If I could extend the pan outlet further it could work. I have tried various connections and the best I have come up with is to use a 92.5 soil bend with push fit one end to connect onto the short piece of 110 pipe and then the other end being a male spigot. To this I can connect a straight pan connector.

I realise there are probably a couple of other ways but does anyone see any problems with doing it this way? I will take some photos and attach them to the thread when I get back home tonight as I've probably not made it that clear in my description what I am trying to do.

Thanks in advance,

Daz

 

[tamz]

the best I have come up with is to use a 92.5 soil bend with push fit one end to connect onto the short piece of 110 pipe and then the other end being a male spigot. To this I can connect a straight pan connector.

That will work. If it is short use a multiqwik extension or extended pan connector.

 

[turnpin]

Hi Daz in the past I have used a Multi kwik straight pan connector into a bent pan connector using a piece of 110mm cut to length Multi kwick actually make a plastic ring for this hope this helpsregards turnpin

 

[DazJWood]

Hey thanks for your suggestions!

I've taken a few pics to make it easier to explain. Pipes will be secured in place with the correct fall once I have the correct routing decided.



This photo below shows the 92.5 degree bend with pushfit at one end and spigot thingy at the other.



The photo below shows the end of the 92.5 bend which then has a straight pan connector into the end to connect to the pan.




Any further comments?

Thanks again in advance,

Daz

 

[tamz]

You can cut a wee bit off the length of the spigot to square it up.

 

[Spike295]

As Turnpin said in post no.3 is the best idea & one i have used many times.

 

[mikegas]

Hi Daz in the past I have used a Multi kwik straight pan connector into a bent pan connector using a piece of 110mm cut to length Multi kwick actually make a plastic ring for this hope this helpsregards turnpin

the multiquick can reduce the bore of the bent pan connector though after the bend, ive done it this way but cut the miltiquick back a bit

 

[DazJWood]

Thanks all again!

Would there be any chance one of you could list a couple of links to the parts I may need if I were to do it the multikwik way?

I think I know which parts you are all refering to but this is all new to me so I'd rather be sure.

Thanks again for all your good advice,

Daz

 

[mikegas]

the way you have done it is better

 

[turnpin]

Thanks all again!

Would there be any chance one of you could list a couple of links to the parts I may need if I were to do it the multikwik way?

I think I know which parts you are all refering to but this is all new to me so I'd rather be sure.

Thanks again for all your good advice,

Daz

Try www.Multikwik.com good luckregards turnpin

 

[mredd]

Hi, if you use this www.*************/prods/18833/Plumbing/Soil-Vent/92-5-87-5-Bend-Single-Socket-Grey-SP161 it has a tighter bend.
And one of these you have more room, WC-CON2 from Mcalpine. You can cut it to fit.
It is a flow plast
92.5°(87.5°) Bend Single Socket Grey SP161 from screw fix.

 

[DazJWood]

Hi, if you use this www.*************/prods/18833/Plumbing/Soil-Vent/92-5-87-5-Bend-Single-Socket-Grey-SP161 it has a tighter bend.
And one of these you have more room, WC-CON2 from Mcalpine. You can cut it to fit.
It is a flow plast
92.5°(87.5°) Bend Single Socket Grey SP161 from screw fix.

Excellent! Thanks for taking the time to provide those links. Much appreciated!

The WC-CON2 straight pan connector (extendable) was the part I didn't think existed. I was convinced there must be pan connector that you could cut to size but couldn't find one in toolstation, screwfix or seemingly on the net. They only seem to stock just the pan extension pieces without the actual pan socket on them.

Do you just know through using the screwfix bend that it is tighter than a usual one? It doesn't seem to indicate that it is, although it does look that way in the picture. I can always buy it and take it back if need be anyways.

Thanks again!

On another note, when using these 92.5 degree bends, are they generally ok to use to achieve a 90 degree turn. I've read that there shouldn't be a problem. They will be fixed in properly with brackets and when they are at the right angle to take the pan properly they don't appear to be under any great stress as to break any of the seals. However, I may still run some silicon round the joints for extra safety before I fix the enclosure over it.

Daz

 

[mredd]

No worries, the bend is a little shorter to, the flexible fins on the pan connector will straighten up any small issues. I would not use silicone on the pan connector.

 

[DazJWood]

No worries, the bend is a little shorter to, the flexible fins on the pan connector will straighten up any small issues. I would not use silicone on the pan connector.

Once again thanks! No I wasn't going to use silicon on the pan connector just was thinking of using some around the 92.5 bends.