Air source heat pumps in the news again

[cjg]

firstly, no, gas boilers will be around for a long time yet, if they try to push it then its a complete new heat system as all the pipe work will have to be upgraded bigger rads, ect, ashp,s will not work unless you have first class insluation ect,
and theres talk of hydroden boilers comeing, so no pannic,..

 

[Phill K]

Like CJ has said, it isn’t mandatory. Just another case for why you should never believe what they say on the “lies box” in the corner of the front room.
Propaganda and scare tactics being monopolised by some very unscrupulous companies.
Like smart meters, no mandate that you must have them.

Company I work for is already sending out it’s boilers ready for the hydrogen change over, Cadent have been busy digging every street in the country upon preparation for it.

One word of advice though, if you are getting a new boiler, get it done before June, energy laws change and it’s going to be a headache for installers to say the least

 

[king of pipes]

Hi everyone,

I bought my small flat (built late 60s) about 2 years ago and got a new gas combi boiler as well as other upgrades as the flat needed fixing up.
My question is, is it mandatory by the government to get air source heat pump installed? I couldn't afford it even with the grant help but am feeling a little worried about it as I am happy with hot water and heating in my flat and don't want to or be forced to change it.

Also for those who live in council let properties do they have any rights to refuse ASHP or does the council over rule this change?

Any advice would be really appreciated thank you.

You won't be forced to change anything so please don't worry gas boilers will be with us for the for seeable future and are still being installed, there could be a few changes coming but it's nothing to consern yourself with and will be brought in slowly. Regards kop

 

[gmartine]

Electricity is going to be over 30p per kw/h after Autumn's planned cap increase, hold tight.

 

[Ric2013]

One word of advice though, if you are getting a new boiler, get it done before June, energy laws change and it’s going to be a headache for installers to say the least

That's worth knowing. Still catching up on back copies of "Installer" so not heard of this. Had a quick look online. The Baxi website explains it simply, but what it is suggesting the law requires seems to me to be no more than what I would deem common sense. What problems do you expect are going to crop up that the idiots in Whitehall haven't forseen?

 

[Murdoch]

Imho only really modern builds can justify ASHP technology

 

[gmartine]

According to Heat Geek if you can run your flow temp at 55 deg C when it's cold outside (-2?) and your comfortable then a dwelling should be compatible with an ASHP without any further alterations like increased pipe size or emitters.

Seems like a reasonable rule of thumb for Southerners as we barely get a frost down here.

 

[John.g]

A 15kw unit will achieve this, if 9.5kw is sufficient to keep your house warm but at a increased cost of course as the COP will be ~ 2.1.

 

[Last Plumber]

According to Heat Geek if you can run your flow temp at 55 deg C when it's cold outside (-2?) and your comfortable then a dwelling should be compatible with an ASHP without any further alterations like increased pipe size or emitters.

Seems like a reasonable rule of thumb for Southerners as we barely get a frost down here.

If you can do it with a DT (flow & Ret diff) of 5 degree C then I suppose it could be a rule of thumb.

 

[John.g]

If 55C/50C (flow/return) is OK and if one wanted to get the maximum COP from the heat pump it would need rads upsized by a factor of almost 3.5 (3.46) to allow 35C/30C (flow/return).