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Put in a full central heating system last week. 4 bed house, 5 day job; Vaillant Ecotec Plus 837 w/rads and all pipework. Got to go back in a few weeks and put the rads back on (took them off at end so they can decorate). 3.5k worth of materials in there, obv not paid yet until I go back and put rads back on and re-fill.

Get a call today, customers missus. 'We're not happy with your work, could you come round so we can discuss'.

So i'm like 'Yeah fine' , KNOWING that everything is spot on done correctly, no corners cut anywhere.

So I get there, and it's them and this bathroom fitter/plumber. He's told them that...are you sitting down.

1) The radiators should be piped in 22mm all the way to every rad, with the last 6 inches in 15mm.

2)I have cut out a 22mm hot pipe in the landing and replaced with 15mm. It should be 22mm.

This bellend stands in front of me and tells me that this is how it should be, and that's how it is in his house and EVERYONES house that he knows. Yes, really. Now, for reasons unknown, the customers are taking advice from this ****tard.

But wait, it gets better. Apparantly, they rang Vaillant, and Vaillant said it should be 22mm to all rads!!!!! Yes!!!

(shhh; don't even mention microbore....)

So; told them straight: bathroom man has absolutely no idea what he's talking about (he didn't like that, got all in my face, but yeah) and they are clearly mistaken about something they spoke to Vaillant about (my money is on them getting the gas pipe mixed up with the heating pipes).

So, i'm now awaiting the results of an email to Vaillant tomorrow......and possibly an extremely stern word with my Vaillant rep yada yada never fitting Vaillants again if that's the crap they're telling customers.

It also transpires that they rang another local engineer for advice; who told them i'm very well known in the area for an extremely high standard of work and basically corroborated every single thing i've done and said to them.
The customer didn't tell me that, the engineer actually rang me up and told me even though I don't actually know him.


So, yeah, stress.
 
Bas tar ds probably looking for some of your 3.5k to pay the bathroom retard.
Find out where he drinks and knock fu ck out the cant.

Absolutely love your style Tamz.

I bet Croppie checked to see if this was in the 'Arms' - just to make sure he didn't have to give you a warning.
 
I did speak to a sound guy at Vaillant earlier called Ian Baker who said he'd get on it and I think he may have spoken to the technical team.

The customer got an email back from Vaillant today.....

FYI - From Vaillant:

Thank you for your email.

We have looked at your email and our technical officer has also spoken to you this morning. Based on this information we believe the installer to have been thorough in his calculations and we cannot see that you will have any problems. However if you still have concerns then you need to contact the installer as Vaillant do not carry out installation work.

Regards

Vaillant Technical

My customer also apologised and admitted there has been a mixup but also did say the guy on the phone at Vaillant said the 22mm to the living room could be longer (22mm to outside living room, 2 rads off 22mm, max 15mm run about 2.5 metres!!) but i'll let that go because I can't be bothered to argue it anymore.


So now i'm thinking about how to continue. I have his paperwork, controls, trvs etc. Think i'm going to outright ask for at least 80-90% of the cash now to continue.

PS. And no mention of the outright lies from his plumber, who works for his company!!!
 
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PS. And no mention of the outright lies from his plumber, who works for his company!!![/QUOTE]

The plot thickens .........
 
So he employs a plumber and he still got you in to do everything?

If that was me I would of got his bloke to do the rads and then get you in to do the boiler and gas. Unless he doesn't trust his bloke.
 
What about the other grand?!

To be quite honest the fact that he's happy to pay the rest is a good sign, I wouldn't and don't think anybody should ask for 100% before the job is complete.

What I think is a lot of the time customers are very wary and sometimes quite rightly so and all it takes is 1 muppet who thinks they know better but actually knows sweet FA to put a doubt in their mind, by the looks of things this has been dealt with the customers mind has been put at ease and the other bloke looks like a fool, so don't play into his hands and turn yourself into the muppet.
 
You've handled this situation well. Take Tamz advice regarding the other C u next Tuesday. Don't get caught!
 
Just got a Facebook message from the chippie on the job (funnily enough the only other decent tradesman on the job, got on with him well!). Says the 'plumber' and the 'builder' (who is also a massive bellend, by the way, and also works for the customers company....) have been slagging me off all day saying my work is bad. Obviously it doesn't matter too much now as customer is clearly satisfied, but still.

The reason i've asked for this 4k is that I believe there is a very real risk of my work being sabotaged in that property by either of these 2 men. At least if that happens I have all my materials covered. That's my thinking.
 
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