Solvent weld gap filler?

[mutley racers]

Hi all. Has anyone used this stuff before when having a weep on a solvent joint? I got a joint on the soil pipe connecting to the underground drainage pipe which would be a nightmare to rip out?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Can’t solvent underground it’s a different material

 

[mutley racers]

Can’t solvent underground it’s a different material

Oh really. I thought it was pretty much the same pipe. I know polypipe let you glue onto it. Not sure what make this one is though.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Not underground as that’s why they only sell it in push fit

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Chip it off and use a pushfit coupling

 

[mutley racers]

I see floplast drainage pipe is made of UPVC which is what solvent weldis made of

 

[Timmy D]

I see floplast drainage pipe is made of UPVC which is what solvent weldis made of

It will work as long as it’s pvc. The reason underground is push fit, is to allow the fitting to take up any ground movement, where a solvent weld would snap.

Rough up the pipe to remove the shine and use gap filler/thicker solvent, not the standard stuff, it’s too thin.

 

[mutley racers]

It will work as long as it’s pvc. The reason underground is push fit, is to allow the fitting to take up any ground movement, where a solvent weld would snap.

Rough up the pipe to remove the shine and use gap filler/thicker solvent, not the standard stuff, it’s too thin.

The question is, would you use it on a pipe that is going to be boxed in and tiled? Would it be like using solvent weld and melt the pipe together or does it just set hard and seal the gap.

 

[Timmy D]

The question is, would you use it on a pipe that is going to be boxed in and tiled? Would it be like using solvent weld and melt the pipe together or does it just set hard and seal the gap.

No I wouldn’t. Cut out and redo.

Get a pushfit coupling for the bottom, short piece of pipe, then a pushfit slip coupling for the top.

 

[Scott_D]

How would you apply it with limited access?

 

[mutley racers]

How would you apply it with limited access?

The gap filler?

 

[mutley racers]

No I wouldn’t. Cut out and redo.

Get a pushfit coupling for the bottom, short piece of pipe, then a pushfit slip coupling for the top.

The reason I used solvent weld was due to space. Didn't have enough room for a pushfit coupling. Needed the shortest possible scenario.

 

[Scott_D]

The gap filler?

yeah
how will you get it into the leaking area?

 

[mutley racers]

yeah
how will you get it into the leaking area?

Never used it before. How do you usually get it in to the gap? Looked for instructions but cannot find as of yet

 

[Scott_D]

I have only used it instead of solvent wend cement for loose fittings,
maybe a rubber glove and force it into the leaking area

 

[mutley racers]

I have only used it instead of solvent wend cement for loose fittings,
maybe a rubber glove and force it into the leaking area

I am bemused why it is leaking. It felt like a good fit, I cleaned the pipe thoroughly and used pipe cleaner (usually just use emery) and there is a wee gap at the back. I tested it a few times and it was dry. Today it rained and I saw a damp patch behind it. Rain going down the vent. Bemused

 

[Scott_D]

I am bemused why it is leaking. It felt like a good fit, I cleaned the pipe thoroughly and used pipe cleaner (usually just use emery) and there is a wee gap at the back. I tested it a few times and it was dry. Today it rained and I saw a damp patch behind it. Rain going down the vent. Bemused

If its just rainwater, can you cut off the fitting and fit this into the orange pipe?

 

[mutley racers]

It has a toilet and vent coming off of it. Would need to break out the concrete and cut the pipe further down and then use that fitting. Thanks for the suggestion though.

 

[WC1]

Have you looked at flexseal icon.

Flexseal ICON 4 Inch Internal Push Fit Drain Pipe Coupling | Drainage Superstore®

These innovative Flexseal ICON push-fit couplings are ideal for connecting pipes on the interior where external couplings might pose challenges. Manufacture...

www.drainagesuperstore.co.uk

They are expensive but good and restrict much less than a transition type as above.

 

[Scott_D]

It has a toilet and vent coming off of it. Would need to break out the concrete and cut the pipe further down and then use that fitting. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Could you cut where the grey meets the orange, this would leave the glued part of grey fitting in place but not in the path of water, you wouldnt need to touch the concrete.
Then put that fitting inside and fit a slip socket a little higher?

 

[mutley racers]

Could you cut where the grey meets the orange, this would leave the glued part of grey fitting in place but not in the path of water, you wouldnt need to touch the concrete.
Then put that fitting inside and fit a slip socket a little higher?

Just had my 6 Yr old and 4yr old wake up at the same time and throwing up all over their beds. Been cleaning sick for last hour. Poor kids. All tucked back in bed and sleeping. Expecting a few more episodes thos evening.

Do you mean cut the pipe at the end of the grey socket just above the concrete in the picture?

This is my set up..

 

[mutley racers]

Have you looked at flexseal icon.

Flexseal ICON 4 Inch Internal Push Fit Drain Pipe Coupling | Drainage Superstore®

These innovative Flexseal ICON push-fit couplings are ideal for connecting pipes on the interior where external couplings might pose challenges. Manufacture...

www.drainagesuperstore.co.uk

They are expensive but good and restrict much less than a transition type as above.

Looks good. Although if I wanted to use this I would need to change the grey tee as the leak would still be in the pipe that is glued into grey socket. I was wondering, as I can reach my hand into the fitting, could I seal it that way with gap filler as surely there is a leak in there.

Talk about looking for an easy solution a

 

[WC1]

could I seal it that way with gap filler as surely there is a leak in there

if it's a very small gap could you dab on a bit of standard solvent weld?

 

[mutley racers]

if it's a very small gap could you dab on a bit of standard solvent weld?

Will give it a go. Quite scary when it's boxed in though.

 

[mutley racers]

If its just rainwater, can you cut off the fitting and fit this into the orange pipe?
View attachment 62814

An ideal situation would be one of these that actually takes the socket of a fitting and not the pipe.

 

[WC1]

An ideal situation would be one of these that actually takes the socket of a fitting and not the pipe.

I think the icon will do that as it's finned

 

[mutley racers]

I think the icon will do that as it's finned

I think I would need to cut the brown pipe at floor level, chip the brown pipe out of the socket which hasn't sealed and glue a new piece of pipe into the socket and use the icon basically.

 

[WC1]

Will give it a go. Quite scary when it's boxed in though.

It's really difficult to advise without seeing it. If it's getting boxed probably best bite the bullet now before tiling etc - we've all been there and it's even less fun. Hope the kids feel better soon.

 

[mutley racers]

It's really difficult to advise without seeing it. If it's getting boxed probably best bite the bullet now before tiling etc - we've all been there and it's even less fun. Hope the kids feel better soon.

Never had a solvent weld leak on soil pipe in 12yrs. In a tight place as well. There is always a 1st time.

Kids still rough, wife is sick as well and I am cramping but cannot go. The 2 Yr old who is potty training is running around like mad having free roam of the house and peeing every where. It's been an interesting day I tell you.

Thanks for asking

 

[mutley racers]

Nice bit of kit the icon pipe insert. Was hoping it would be long enough to go past my leak on the solvent weld but wasn't thought about cutting it down so it would but then thought I would do a proper job and chip the brown pipe out which was easy as it was missing a bit of weld on the back.

The part actually feels loose going in but it holds water.

 

[Ben-gee]

Have you glued a short length of pipe into your grey boss pipe?
If not, I’m not surprised it felt loose- I would definitely add this short length of pipe or you’ll get a leak in the future- same as when people use a pan connector into a socket, it may hold for a while but not long term.

 

[mutley racers]

Have you glued a short length of pipe into your grey boss pipe?
If not, I’m not surprised it felt loose- I would definitely add this short length of pipe or you’ll get a leak in the future- same as when people use a pan connector into a socket, it may hold for a while but not long term.

I most certainly have. Was meant to type that but got a call and forgot to finish my post

 

[Ben-gee]

That’s an interesting fitting, one to put in the memory bank for those awkward situations when you’re scratching your head.

 

[mutley racers]

Not cheap but certainly a get out of jail free cars. Jewsom do them for 35 all in

 

[Scott_D]

That’s an interesting fitting, one to put in the memory bank for those awkward situations when you’re scratching your head.

Agreed, never knew they existed.
Im sure it will come in handy some day
Good thread