ratchet pipeslice

[johnnyplumb]

anyone got one of these Ratchet Action Copper Tube Cutters - 15mm | Cutters | Corgi Direct

just wondering if they are any better than a normal pipeslice.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

gadget IMHO

 

[Mickyplumb]

anyone got one of these Ratchet Action Copper Tube Cutters - 15mm | Cutters | Corgi Direct

just wondering if they are any better than a normal pipeslice.

I've got the 15 and 22, pretty good but make sure the pipe is paint free before you cut. The best ratchet cutting tool by far is their adjustable ratchet pipe cutter. Absolutley lost without it, best purchase I've made for years, only about 18 quid.

 

[Dannypipe]

The plastic pipe cutter in the video looks very good quality and that Jet Swet thing, allthough a bit of a gimmick could be handy too.

 

[Mickyplumb]

The plastic pipe cutter in the video looks very good quality and that Jet Swet thing, allthough a bit of a gimmick could be handy too.

The ratchet pipe cutter is actually all metal inside. I've had to buy a couple of spare wheels since I've had it but it really saves your knuckles! I've also got the Jet Swets, haven't used them much to be honest but they save me 45 mins of mucking around when flushing a gravity system. I stick one in the fill to plug it up and then a speed fit on the vent and can start flushing straight away. It saves draining out the F and E and then having to cut and cap the fill. Then I can bail out the F and E at my leisure, really does save time.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

like the look of this though looks like my old hilmor

 

[Mickyplumb]

like the look of this though looks like my old hilmor

I think it looks like my Rems one ?
Have you seen CORGI's ratchet wrenches too ? I must admit, I'm a bit of a new tool fanatic but they are blinking good.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

I think it looks like my Rems one ?
Have you seen CORGI's ratchet wrenches too ? I must admit, I'm a bit of a new tool fanatic but they are blinking good.

ratchet wrenches?nah bacho all the way micky

 

[Mickyplumb]

ratchet wrenches?nah bacho all the way micky

Mr Gasman, bahco good, irega better! Not cheap mind you as you know. I thought the ratchet wrench was a gimmick but it's actually really good. Ultimately, maybe not Bahco quality but I suppose that a fair bit of the money I paid for the ratchet unit went into the ratchet itself, something obviously Bahco don't have to consider.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Mr Gasman, bahco good, irega better! Not cheap mind you as you know. I thought the ratchet wrench was a gimmick but it's actually really good. Ultimately, maybe not Bahco quality but I suppose that a fair bit of the money I paid for the ratchet unit went into the ratchet itself, something obviously Bahco don't have to consider.

if it works ok then fair bit of kit does it need oiling regularly?

 

[Mickyplumb]

if it works ok then fair bit of kit does it need oiling regularly?

Fair question, the only time I give it a jab of WD40 is if it's got exceptionally wet. It was 25 odd quid, it might not be that forgiving if I don't keep it 40'd so I don't take the chance.
Have you ever come across their plier wrenches ? Similar to the knipex plier wrench. Great looking concept, 45 pounds a pop though !

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Fair question, the only time I give it a jab of WD40 is if it's got exceptionally wet. It was 25 odd quid, it might not be that forgiving if I don't keep it 40'd so I don't take the chance.
Have you ever come across their plier wrenches ? Similar to the knipex plier wrench. Great looking concept, 45 pounds a pop though !

cant say i have got a link?

 

[Mickyplumb]

cant say i have got a link?

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...z9HDDg&usg=AFQjCNHFdHfaxWR_cAQFqrkYE4XaE3CBoA

I think I've done it right! Basically, parallel flat jaws, whatever load you put on the handles is multiplied by 10. Imagine it as an adjustable spanner that you can actually increase the jaw tightness on. Never slip. Never.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=knipex%20plier%20wrench&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CH8QtwIwBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1_RLWKMXrqk&ei=BcLwT5u1GaLS0QXhz9HDDg&usg=AFQjCNHFdHfaxWR_cAQFqrkYE4XaE3CBoA

I think I've done it right! Basically, parallel flat jaws, whatever load you put on the handles is multiplied by 10. Imagine it as an adjustable spanner that you can actually increase the jaw tightness on. Never slip. Never.

they look the dogs but i have used the alligator for donkeys years,would be hard for me to convert

 

[EPH]

they look the dogs but i have used the alligator for donkeys years,would be hard for me to convert

But the alligator is a different tool completely, their grips whilst the other one is a spanner.

Must say I like the look of them.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

But the alligator is a different tool completely, their grips whilst the other one is a spanner.

Must say I like the look of them.

same **** different teeth

 

[Mickyplumb]

they look the dogs but i have used the alligator for donkeys years,would be hard for me to convert

Am I wrong or are the Alligators jaws fitted with teeth ? I think the argument that Knipex etc are using is that because the handles on the standard format of pump pliers are direct action (no lever multiplication ) then they need the teeth to get the grip because jaw clamping force isn't sufficient in itself to grip the fitting. Also, with direct action ( non parallel jaws) then even if you took the teeth of off the pump pliers then the chances of your jaws being perfectly parallel with the flats of the hex fitting is zero. Also, my train of thought is why would I ever use toothed pump pliers on a fitting if there was an alternative ? Having played with some that my buddy has got, it's a bit like being in the situation where a nut is so seized, it is untrue. So, you put your best Bahco's or Irega's or whatever on the nut and are pushing like crazy thinking that any second it's going to slip and destroy your knuckles. Well, with these, you would simple squeeze a little tighter knowing that whatever you're doing is multiplied by 10 ! I think it's the sort of tool that give you confidence to undo anything, no matter how tight. Just my opinion though.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

tbh been in this game a long time anything with a ratchet dont impress me much those robogrips where one cack example (ask tamz his views ) if i caNT UNDO IT WITH A KNIPEX OR BACHOS I EITHER GET OUT THE FOOTPRINTS OR THE STILSONS,a stillsons never fails especially when it has a bar or hammer on the end of it,but if this ratchet stuff works for you and makes you more efficient then good on you,it has after all taken me 4 years to see the virtues of a oscillating cutter

 

[Mickyplumb]

tbh been in this game a long time anything with a ratchet dont impress me much those robogrips where one cack example (ask tamz his views ) if i caNT UNDO IT WITH A KNIPEX OR BACHOS I EITHER GET OUT THE FOOTPRINTS OR THE STILSONS,a stillsons never fails especially when it has a bar or hammer on the end of it,but if this ratchet stuff works for you and makes you more efficient then good on you,it has after all taken me 4 years to see the virtues of a oscillating cutter

There's another debate, stilsons, rigid, footprints .... Thank heavens for the choice !

 

[SafeGasInstall]

out of all i think the spanner is a good one !

 

[SafeGasInstall]

i will probably wait till bahco bring one out

 

[tamz]

like the look of this though looks like my old hilmor

If it is made (rebranded) by rothenberg it is shyte and robogrips must have been at the top of the shyte list!

If you want a decent set of adjustable cutters look for these

They used to have (well mine have) an alloy handle but i see they are now plastic. I suppose that is what is called progress!
The knipex (K nipex!!! why don't they get someone who can say the word to advertise it) grips in the link above are good (for polished fittings) but no better gripping (infact probably less so) than a set of alligators or cobras. Mine only get used on chrome nuts and the like.
If you want something that will never ever slip because it is an impossibility, use stilsons.

 

[Mickyplumb]

If it is made (rebranded) by rothenberg it is shyte and robogrips must have been at the top of the shyte list!

If you want a decent set of adjustable cutters look for these
View attachment 7074
They used to have (well mine have) an alloy handle but i see they are now plastic. I suppose that is what is called progress!
The knipex (K nipex!!! why don't they get someone who can say the word to advertise it) grips in the link above are good (for polished fittings) but no better gripping (infact probably less so) than a set of alligators or cobras. Mine only get used on chrome nuts and the like.
If you want something that will never ever slip because it is an impossibility, use stilsons.

The knipex type are only meant for fittings, no good on a bit of barrel, obviously. Give them a try, really, so much tighter grip than alligators or cobras. I'm working with my buddy today that's got a set, I video a short demo if I can. They are good guys.

 

[stevetheplumber]

stilsons and foot prints lock on end of story but i can see the cam action spanner looks good