Questions for my first job

[Paul Cockhill]

Hi

I am on my first job working for a friend and I have two questions

1. Copper Pipe joining, is it personal preference to use Yorkshire fittings as apposed to an end fed capillary fitting? A plumber was telling me that yorkshire fittings are for diyers?

2. Waht is the best way to cap off a badly damaged service pipe comming into the kitchen. The pipe is badly crushed and split in several places, I have temporarily fixed it but I need to cap it off, I guess back to the mains connection but would appreciate some advice to how and what to do with the redundant pipe

thanks

Paul

 

[secret squirrel]

Don't agree with the yorkshire fittings are for diyers. I carry a few, sometimes, your in a difficult place and your trying to balance a few different things so they're quicker and easier. However, having said that I mainly use end feeds (99%) they're cheaper. Keep the costs down, profits up.

I may be being thick but unsure which pipe is damage, if your capping a pipe off because its redundant then you should take it back as far as you can and cap it there. If its being capped off for ever at the furthest point away as you can get then I'd solder it if it were dry.

Good luck. Take your time.

 

[pauls]

yorkshire fittings are handy for when you are in awkward places, handy to have i do use endfeed most of the time

 

[dontknowitall]

I only have end feed and plastic in my van.

 

[Paul Cockhill]

HI

Thank you for all you advice and help. I am using yorkshire and end feed fittings as I sometimes find yorkshire fittings easier.

With regard to capping off the pipe, I will send another thread this evening if I have trouble.

Many thanks

Paul

 

[newbie1]

its just snobbery when people say yorkshire is for amatuers
end feed is cheaper but a well soldered yorkshire will look very neat with no snots on the vertical
anyone can do a neat horizontal end feed but the bottom of a vertical isnt so easy so use whatever your happiest with

 

[tackleburger]

I use end feed. The only time I get a leak funnily enough is with the odd solder ring fitting. Probably me but I don't trust them so end up giving them a quick tip solder anyway. I fit Viessmann boilers quite a lot and anyone who has fitted them will know you need a 15mm solder ring to do the PRV pipe so they do have their uses.

 

[dontknowitall]

I went to a major pipe frozen house today (aftermath of a couple of weeks ago.) Fixed the burst pipe, turned the water on, another leak.

Went to investigate and it was a yorkshire tee fitting where two of the pipes had escaped from the fitting. Not saying they're no good, but seems in this case the end feed were stronger.

 

[WHPES]

Might just have been they were older ones with lead solder.

 

[jpm]

I use end feed. The only time I get a leak funnily enough is with the odd solder ring fitting. Probably me but I don't trust them so end up giving them a quick tip solder anyway. I fit Viessmann boilers quite a lot and anyone who has fitted them will know you need a 15mm solder ring to do the PRV pipe so they do have their uses.

I also fit viessmann and always sweat a tail onto prv pipe before hanging boiler.Badgered the rep over this and they have now changed the length as well as the carp idea of a female iron for the gas

 

[flyboy]

When I started DIY plumbing 30 years ago I used Yorkshire fittings as i had never made any copper pipe joints and did not know how solder flowed when hot. Once I saw how the yorkshire joints worked and how hot you had to heat it to get the ring of solder I tried some end feed - surprised at how easy they were. If you make thousands of joints a year then the extra cost of Yorkshire fittings will add up. Looking at the prices - 10 Yorkshire fittings costs about the same as 25 of the cheapest end feed fittings. How much does the solder cost and the extra time needed in fitting end feeds ... when everything is worked out there will not be a lot of difference in the cost.