Gas Safe Engineers

Discussion in 'Gas Safe Register Forum - Public Forum' started by croppie, Nov 18, 2012.

  1. croppie

    croppie Forum Thug

    Please be very aware that this is an open forum.

    Please take ALL gas related threads where you are discussing the technical and safety related repair of boilers into the Gas Safe Registered Engineers Sub Forum!

    Thank you!
     
  2. dancinplumba

    dancinplumba UK Plumbersforums Trusted Advisor.

    nice one croppie
     
  3. mikegas

    mikegas Plumbers Arms member

    Background Colour scheme or something should be different in the locked forums, I never know which of the two I'm in
     
  4. villa_tom

    villa_tom Plumbers Arms member

    Ok mom. :)
     
  5. dancinplumba

    dancinplumba UK Plumbersforums Trusted Advisor.

    mentioned this last nite in the TA forum
     
  6. croppie

    croppie Forum Thug

    And tidy your bedroom!
     
  7. steveb

    steveb Super Moderator

    i'll make this a sticky so it doesn't get lost down the page.
     
  8. croppie

    croppie Forum Thug

    Thanks Steve.
     
  9. Orry Clayton

    Orry Clayton Plumbers Arms member

    be in there once my CENWAT cert comes through, been waiting a few weeks for it, so to register (not paying £12 extra within days of registering)
     
  10. Bernie2

    Bernie2 Banned

    Hmm! Why have a Gas Safe Registered sign by your name, if you do not advise people other than to tell them not to do anything? It is fairly obvious that if a person says they can see yellow flames in a gas fire that there is something wrong with it. I would say it is acceptable to tell them what it may be but not to touch it, the dangers involved and to call a gas safe engineer. If you give them no idea of what the fault may be, they may very well ignore it and be overcome with carbon monoxide.

    The fact that laws exist that make it illegal for certain classes of people to touch gas at all should be sufficient.
     
  11. mikegas

    mikegas Plumbers Arms member

    Surely telling them what it might be will only increase the chances of them messing with it.
     
  12. Bernie2

    Bernie2 Banned

    I don't think so Mike I have usually found the opposite, many people think things are simple and easy to do, if they do not know about it, especially the DIYer. But if you explain the dangers and why it is dangerous, they seem to think again, not use what you have told them to do it. I think it perhaps underlines to them that the job they proposed to do was not as simple as they thought. And once they know the implications for them legally in doing DIY repairs they tend to think it is not worth the bother.

    The guy who has no money to repair the boiler will probably have a go regardless of whether you tell him or not.

    I mean how many people speed in a car? The speed limits on roads are set by government guys driving down them and assessing the safest fastest driving speed of them. People still speed though but knowing why it is the fastest speed often helps them be more aware and not to speed.

    One can only hope educating people to risk helps. Where as keeping them in the dark increases risk and makes gas fitters look like a secretive group wanting to keep secrets from their customers and possibly increase prices for no good reason. That helps break down the customer gas fitter relationship and it becomes customer lunch and a gas fitter shark. You do not really want that, you want repeat business not antipathy and a feeling they are being ripped off.
     
  13. Terry_the_piper

    Terry_the_piper New Member

    Mixed feelings guys. I go to some who have obviously messed with the boiler before I got there but claim thats how it was left by the last chap! Others are well behaved though and are happy to pay for peace of mind.
     
  14. Kyle87

    Kyle87 Plumbers Arms member

    I'm not even GSR yet. I'm training. But one of the lecturers at my college is rob munton. He's been a gas incident investigator for years. We were shown a couple of slides on a couple of cases he was on. Put it this way, people died because gas registered engineers didn't do their job right. Now if trained people can kill people through negligence, what do you think is gonna happen through DIY ignorance. Just taking the casing off some gas appliances and not putting them back right is enough to kill let alone fiddling with the workings inside.

    I'm with the mods. People's safety is paramount.
     
  15. SimonG

    SimonG UK Plumbersforums Trusted Advisor.

    I'm with the mods. Half the jokers coming on here just want telling how to fix it so that they can do it themselves.

    It should be sufficient to say do not touch and get a gsr engineer. If they have questions they can ask the engineer they are paying when he arrives on site.

    To be honest I wish it was the same for the oil and solid fuel.
     
  16. Viper Gas

    Viper Gas New Member

    Hey guys I'll be dealing with the aweful power max 155x. Clients says it doesn't fire up for demand of hot water only.....any ideas!????

    Cheers fellas.
     
  17. dave1

    dave1 Plumbers Arms member

    Flow switch maybe? It has to heat the h/w before it will fire for c/h.
    They have two pumps, one on the left for c/h.
    I've changed quite a few of the flow switches.
    Could just of locked out for low pressure or no gas.
     
  18. stevetheplumber

    stevetheplumber UK Plumbersforums Trusted Advisor.

    withholding infomation is the best way to controll the population ask hitler or stalin saying youve with held it for there own good is removing peoples choices next we will be burning the books and sending people to gas awareness camps
     
  19. Bernie2

    Bernie2 Banned

    To avoid accidents inform people so they can recognise the dangers. Don't inform them and they can kill through ignorance. Most of the information on this forum can be gained elsewhere if people decide to look. Not being free with advice is just silly makes gas fitters look like a secret society.
     
  20. croppie

    croppie Forum Thug

    I'm getting fed up with this.

    The forum policy is that we do not give technical advice on the installation or repair of gas boilers or the modification or installation of gas pipework to non gsr's.

    The simple explanation of don't touch you're not qualified will suffice.

    If they then find out the information elsewhere and manage to kill themselves then that's not our problem.

    If you're comfortable with giving such advice and at ease with yourself for doing a gsr out of a job then fine. Go do it. You just won't be doing it on these forums.
     

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