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  1. Dotty

    Dotty Guest

    Please be very aware that this is an open forum.

    Please take ALL gas related threads where you are discussing the technical and safety related repair of boilers into the Gas Safe Registered Engineers Sub Forum!

    Thank you!
     
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  2. dancinplumba

    dancinplumba Trusted Plumber GSR

    nice one croppie
     
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  3. mikegas

    mikegas Plumber GSR

    Background Colour scheme or something should be different in the locked forums, I never know which of the two I'm in
     
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  4. villa_tom

    villa_tom Plumber GSR

    Ok mom. :)
     
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  5. dancinplumba

    dancinplumba Trusted Plumber GSR

    mentioned this last nite in the TA forum
     
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  6. Dotty

    Dotty Guest

    And tidy your bedroom!
     
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  7. PlumbBobBob

    PlumbBobBob Guest

    i'll make this a sticky so it doesn't get lost down the page.
     
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  8. Dotty

    Dotty Guest

    Thanks Steve.
     
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  9. Orry Clayton

    Orry Clayton Plumber GSR

    be in there once my CENWAT cert comes through, been waiting a few weeks for it, so to register (not paying £12 extra within days of registering)
     
  10. Bernie2

    Bernie2 Guest

    Hmm! Why have a Gas Safe Registered sign by your name, if you do not advise people other than to tell them not to do anything? It is fairly obvious that if a person says they can see yellow flames in a gas fire that there is something wrong with it. I would say it is acceptable to tell them what it may be but not to touch it, the dangers involved and to call a gas safe engineer. If you give them no idea of what the fault may be, they may very well ignore it and be overcome with carbon monoxide.

    The fact that laws exist that make it illegal for certain classes of people to touch gas at all should be sufficient.
     
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  11. mikegas

    mikegas Plumber GSR

    Surely telling them what it might be will only increase the chances of them messing with it.
     
  12. Bernie2

    Bernie2 Guest

    I don't think so Mike I have usually found the opposite, many people think things are simple and easy to do, if they do not know about it, especially the DIYer. But if you explain the dangers and why it is dangerous, they seem to think again, not use what you have told them to do it. I think it perhaps underlines to them that the job they proposed to do was not as simple as they thought. And once they know the implications for them legally in doing DIY repairs they tend to think it is not worth the bother.

    The guy who has no money to repair the boiler will probably have a go regardless of whether you tell him or not.

    I mean how many people speed in a car? The speed limits on roads are set by government guys driving down them and assessing the safest fastest driving speed of them. People still speed though but knowing why it is the fastest speed often helps them be more aware and not to speed.

    One can only hope educating people to risk helps. Where as keeping them in the dark increases risk and makes gas fitters look like a secretive group wanting to keep secrets from their customers and possibly increase prices for no good reason. That helps break down the customer gas fitter relationship and it becomes customer lunch and a gas fitter shark. You do not really want that, you want repeat business not antipathy and a feeling they are being ripped off.
     
  13. Terry_the_piper

    Terry_the_piper GSR

    Mixed feelings guys. I go to some who have obviously messed with the boiler before I got there but claim thats how it was left by the last chap! Others are well behaved though and are happy to pay for peace of mind.
     
  14. Kyle87

    Kyle87 Guest

    I'm not even GSR yet. I'm training. But one of the lecturers at my college is rob munton. He's been a gas incident investigator for years. We were shown a couple of slides on a couple of cases he was on. Put it this way, people died because gas registered engineers didn't do their job right. Now if trained people can kill people through negligence, what do you think is gonna happen through DIY ignorance. Just taking the casing off some gas appliances and not putting them back right is enough to kill let alone fiddling with the workings inside.

    I'm with the mods. People's safety is paramount.
     
  15. SimonG

    SimonG Trusted Plumber

    I'm with the mods. Half the jokers coming on here just want telling how to fix it so that they can do it themselves.

    It should be sufficient to say do not touch and get a gsr engineer. If they have questions they can ask the engineer they are paying when he arrives on site.

    To be honest I wish it was the same for the oil and solid fuel.
     
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