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Discuss Flexible hose... are these a requirement? in the Fittings & Pipes area at UKPlumbersForums.co.uk.

  1. JohnthePainter

    JohnthePainter New Member

    Hi folks,

    I have a standard flexible hose (the braided ones) coming off my cold and hot feed to the kitchen taps, and also one to the outside tap. I'm curious... do these need to be the flexible hose? Why not just a flexi plastic pipe with some speedy fittings? Does anything gong to a tap need these specific braided flexible hose?

    I going to replace all the copper pipe and fittings with plastic speedy fit ones so was just curious if I needed to keep them.

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  2. snowhead

    snowhead Well-Known Member

    Flexis were invented by the Devil.
    And are used by his disciples.
     
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  3. Chalked

    Chalked Plumber GSR

    as sbove, flexi's are the devils child!
    Speedfit ! Is its ginger stepchild!

    If there is a god. It's soldered copper. :17:
     
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  4. SimonG

    SimonG Plumber Top Contributor!!

    Properly installed, quality flexis are not an issue. But copper is superior.
     
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  5. Riley

    Riley Plumber GSR

    Why are you replacing the copper????
     
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  6. Last Plumber

    Last Plumber Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    A real plumber would use copper. It would be neat and tidy. He/She would walk away with much confidence that the joint was made to last. There would be no dangers from cheap nasty rubbish rubbery things bursting open during the night. No danger from stupid leaking flexibles with built in isolation valves.

    It takes a wee bit longer to use copper and costs a tad more.


    Any muppet can use push fit or flexies !!
     
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  7. Best

    Best Trusted Plumber

    That photo says so much about today's add on bits of plumbing, - nice original copper pipe in house, - simple minor plumbing job, outside tap, or whatever - and somebody buys the MORE expensive flexi hoses and push fit plastic fittings instead of a piece of copper pipe and some brass or solder joints costing less!
    And a diyer has used ptfe tape on compression threads! :cuss:
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2016
  8. Paulplumb

    Paulplumb Plumber GSR

    Not many taps are supplied without flexis now. if they're wras approved and not misused I don't have a problem with them. The amount I see almost kinked in half. Job yesterday customer supplied basin mixer with 18" flexis :D
     
  9. JohnthePainter

    JohnthePainter New Member

    Thanks for all your replies. I'm honestly trying my best! I appreciate what you're all saying re copper vs. plastic.
     
  10. Darren Jackson

    Darren Jackson Plumber GSR

    It's the difference between a good solid professional neat reliable copper job and the quick DIY hope it's going to be ok and last issue. But alas most mixer taps come with flexi now & so we regrettably have to use them when they do!
     
  11. JohnthePainter

    JohnthePainter New Member

    Cheers. It's temporary until the summer so hopefully not too much of a drama. I would do it myself if I could solder it but don't have the tools. I'll get a plumber in the summer ;)
     
  12. JCplumb

    JCplumb Plumber

    As soon as you see PTFE peeking out from behind a conex nut you know handy Andy did the job, to be fair to Andy, he did put an iso and a check valve on the o/s tap and it's not leaking yet so could be worse.

    To the OP, why are you going to replace all the copper with plastic and ''speedy fit'' ?
    None of those flexis are kinked and apart from PTFE on the threads the copper looks OK, if I bought a house and the undersink plumbing was like that, replacing it would be very low on my list of priorities, although I'd probably support the pipe between the ISO and check valve. It's not ideal, but if you're thinking about future proofing it then copper is the way to go, not speedy fit ;)
     
  13. kozak1968

    kozak1968 Plumber GSR

    Probably on a tight budget
     
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