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I recently had a new boiler fitted into my flat and have some concerns about the solution provided for condensate.

When the job was first scoped out I was told that a pipe would be run outside to deal with the condensate, which would be a challenge because of the property but doable.

I stuck with the condensing water boiler because it was going to be a huge hassle to change to combi in my property, which was confirmed by all of the installation companies that gave me a quote. Didn't seem like any real reason to change either, as long as everything worked and my house had a working heating system!

Anyway, the guys I arranged to do the job came out and although there was a couple of visits required to get things working they got everything fitted and the boiler was working perfectly. I noticed there were no pipes going outside, so I did ask what happened to them. I was told at this point that they'd found an alternative solution that meant they didn't need to. I probably should have asked more questions, however I know nothing about boilers so, possibly naively, just accepted what I was told.

However, after a couple of days the system started making a dreadful sound, right underneath the boiler itself, and it just wouldn't stop. I had a look at where the sound was coming from and it was a small contraption inside a plastic box which was filled with water. I took a video and messaged the installer, who said that I just had to remove the plastic box and empty the water. So I did this, but a few days later it just filled up again and the same sound returned. I was then told that I would have to keep changing the box when it fills up with water. At this point I was a bit miffed. Was this normal? I had to yank the contraption thingy (I don't know what it is, you might have guessed) out of the plastic box, pulling some pipes out as well, with condensate dripping on the floor in the process, and take the plastic box and pour the water down the toilet. I'd never heard of anything like it.

Fast forward about 6 weeks and I'm going through this process every 2 days or so, sometimes daily if we are home and have the heating on a lot. I have contacted the fitting company and they have said they'll book someone to come and provide an alternative solution, but that they informed me that there isn't really a viable alternative that follows proper procedure.

My concern here is I feel like I shouldn't be changing condensate manually every couple of days and it just seems like a ludicrous process and I can't quite believe that it was ever fitted this way, without even notifying me at the time that this would be the case. The guys were really helpful and had to deal with a lot of obstacles when fitting the new boiler, which I really appreciated and I feel slightly guilty about raising concerns on a forum. But the honest truth is I know very little about boilers and I just wanted to check if I'm being unreasonable. Maybe it's a normal solution to have a plastic box that the condensate fills up into and then needs changed?

So at this point I'm just looking for some feedback on my situation and whether it all sounds standard or not. As I mentioned, the guys I got in were really helpful on the whole and to be fair they have said they'll come out at some point to look at changing the current set up when it comes to condensate. I'm just a little concerned about what's in place and having spent £2,500 on a new boiler I'd like to know it's all been fitted properly!
 
Clear plastic pipe maybe 8-10mm is outlet from pump so should go somewhere!
Should go up whilst pipe is close to pump and shouldn't go under floor as I believe you said, pump has a maximum lift capacity.
 
As requested, here are some photos of the setup.

So, first image shows the pump - with the plastic part that I have to empty every couple of days.

Second image shows where the plastic pipe goes under the floor, which then goes all the way to the water tank itself - I've shown where it comes back up in picture 4.

Picture 3 is just the boiler itself.

There isn't anything that leads outside in terms of the pipes, as mentioned before the harder white one goes up from the pump and into the boiler and the clear one leads back to the water tank.

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Picture 2 the clear , pump discharge pipe, is squashed and is restricting the flow
It needs fixing in brackets otherwise it'll get damaged and start leaking.
For a temp fix try jamming some cardboard behind the vertical pipe to wided the gap and ease the clear pipe.

That pump can move 500ltrs per hr, a few drops of condensate shouldn't be a problem;
Altech Condensate Pump - Pumps

There should be a copper pipe from the boiler, Pressure relief discharge, that goes outside maybe, from the boiler?
 
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As requested, here are some photos of the setup.

So, first image shows the pump - with the plastic part that I have to empty every couple of days.

Second image shows where the plastic pipe goes under the floor, which then goes all the way to the water tank itself - I've shown where it comes back up in picture 4.

Picture 3 is just the boiler itself.

There isn't anything that leads outside in terms of the pipes, as mentioned before the harder white one goes up from the pump and into the boiler and the clear one leads back to the water tank.

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What a dreadfull installation, using home brew plastic tube with no clips and bodged up , a 5 year old could do better . How the hell did you decide to pay them !....chocklate money. Rob Foster aka centralheatking
 
The installation looks poor, but in principle it should work. Presumably your last pic shows where it's bossed into a sink or similar drain. Maybe matthias's #15 is right, no hole has been cut in the pipe. If so, easy enough to correct. If the pump is wired correctly and the hose isn't kinked, I don't see a problem. Get them back to sort it!
 
Only have to see the different water levels in the hose to see a problem, might even be the only problem!
Is there a joint in the hose or is it lens/ light trickery?

Op, don't suppose they left the installation guide behind did they?
 
Can it be arranged so that the clear hose goes vertically up and then flows to a drain point under gravity? I always think these work better like that, lift first. A bit like saniflo - ask RPM!
 

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