(co) bigger killer now or 20 years ago

[AWheating]

corgi do one for about £45.

 

[Pssst]

ESPs dont provide CO/Atmospheric detectors for its Engineers although i think one is now issuing PAMs (personal atmospheric monitors).I wonder how it can be considered safe to send an ESP bod to fumes/reports of CO and yet he has no means to safeguard himself?

 

[Reg Man]

ESPs dont provide CO/Atmospheric detectors for its Engineers although i think one is now issuing PAMs (personal atmospheric monitors).I wonder how it can be considered safe to send an ESP bod to fumes/reports of CO and yet he has no means to safeguard himself?

A CO incident a coulpe of years ago, in South Wales, involved the ESP man being overcome by CO in a cellar of a commerical office block. No personal CO detector. Can't understand why the ESP don't issue them out as a norm. But may be they do now?
The cause was a domestic GSR engineer changed the gas valve, the day before, on a commercial atmosphereic boiler and did not set the burner pressure or check the gas rate properly, this as well as defective ventialtion was the cause.

 

[tamz]

SGN (Scotland) have been issuing them for a while now. Maybe southern do to as they are part of the same group.

 

[Gasmancoops]

I believe all of the ESP's were looking at this issue and most were considering personal alarms for their first call operatives. However politically they did not want to go down the route of issue CO detectors or analysers for responding to reports of fumes/CO alarm activation as this opens up a whole new skill level for their staff which would involve training and all sorts of additional costs to them.

By issuing personal alarms only they can remain as TOFO's and just make safe.

 

[nicro3]

Sorry, but general CO suicides, are not included in the Advantica stat's.

Incorrect ! the biggest cause of CO deaths in this country are suicides. In the UK in 2012 there where over 6000 suicides, by far the most used method was CO poisoning

 

[tamz]

Incorrect ! the biggest cause of CO deaths in this country are suicides. In the UK in 2012 there where over 6000 suicides, by far the most used method was CO poisoning

Obviously not by sticking your head in the oven.
Hose in the car window will do that one so it is highly unlikely to be included in any Advantica reports.

 

[nicro3]

Exactly, read previous posts !!Obviously not by sticking your head in the oven.
Hose in the car window will do that one so it is highly unlikely to be included in any Advantica reports.

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[tamz]

I did read them and the comment was about Advantica collated gas related incidents which obviously doesn't cover some unfortunate who can't pay their bills topping themselves in the garage.
Advantica used to collate the information but it has now seemingly been passed to the Cross Government Group on Gas Safety and Carbon Monoxide Awareness.
Suicides, however they are carried out, do not fall into this category.
Read http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/domestic/cross-government-group-1011.pdf
The relevant information is near the end.

 

[simon0703]

Hate them too, fires are a grey area in my opinion. Got the new next book the other day and they are selling bioethonol fires. Apparently clean burning does not need vent or flue. That's a accident waiting to happen