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Hi chaps, just wondering where to buy the above? For gas it is black malleable iron yes? I know bes sells some fittings but not pipe. So where do I buy the pipe from?

Cheers fellers
 
Hi chaps, just wondering where to buy the above? For gas it is black malleable iron yes? I know bes sells some fittings but not pipe. So where do I buy the pipe from?

Cheers fellers

Ask the lads at Esher. We carry it in our central depots, but not in all branches. If its just a one off, then the lads can get it next day from internal distribution, or Paul has the discretion to carry a bit of stock if you are using it regularly.
 
BSS have tube stock or if you have retail premises get an f&P wholesale account?
 
Yep , not all pipe though225mm and 375mm is a non off shelf item and vulcathene always instock in a place just out of reach!
 
the big stuff or specialist is never on shelf due to cost , just installed abou a grands worth of vulcathene but they had that in staock due to it being school closing time
 
the big stuff or specialist is never on shelf due to cost , just installed abou a grands worth of vulcathene but they had that in staock due to it being school closing time

Haven't you noticed during downturn everyone's reluctance to keep anything in stock? Good business sense but pretty annoying at 16.30 when u planning to work late and finish off!
 
I do alot of steel. And the best place I have found is bss most stuff in stock and next day if not

How much you planning on doing. I've just done about 6k in tube and fittings ok one job
 
I just needed 1 length of 3 metre black iron. Williams and co can get it next day but not for saturday. So I tried bss but they out of stock. So then tried pipe centre who have. I didn't realise how much it was. One wrought iron flat faced union costs £66+vat.
 
Don't pay that

I only pay £30 for a 4" elbow

Tell them to get bent and give you a decent price

What part of the world are you in?
 
Btw. Use copper face. You'll get a much better seal
 
Am in hampton court. But the place is london ealing. What is copper face? I have no choice but to buy it as the pipe that needs cutting into has no movement so need a flat face union. It is wrought iron though, usually for steam. Is that ok for gas?
 
Bit gutted really as a normal ball joint is only £7. This is 10x the price

For future, does anyone know where I can get these for cheaper?
 
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What size pipe and fittings is it?
You can use normal MI or galvanised.
A 6.5m lengtht of 1" mi galv is around 30 odd quid. Split unions are about 3 or 4 and bronze to iron about a pound dearer
 
Your'e not a million miles from Croydon (well about 45 mins)

Harris and Bailey have all you would need in stock.
 
use a long screw con for gas dont think unioins are good for gas

Think long screw went out with the Ark:)

I am pushing 70 and only come across long screw on gas about three occasions.

Unions have been used for many, many years now:smilewinkgrin:
 
Need a gas union mate make sure its gas due to the seals. 66 quid plus vat does sound dear tho I have mis judged barrel tho has a habit of putting a dent on pocket .

Is this pipe being welded or threaded and is it underfloor ?
 
It's being threaded and is a vertical run in a room. So not concealed. I see you can use wrought iron fittings on gas but not wrought iron pipe with gas.
 
What size pipe and fittings is it?
You can use normal MI or galvanised.
A 6.5m lengtht of 1" mi galv is around 30 odd quid. Split unions are about 3 or 4 and bronze to iron about a pound dearer

It's inch and half. For a 3 metre length in bss it 33+vat. Need the special flat faced union as no play on the pipework for normal union.

I thought you weren't allowed to use galvanised on gas
 
You don't need a flat faced. A copper faced standard union is fine
 
You don't need a flat faced. A copper faced standard union is fine


Really? With this fitting they won't need any play on the pipe? As it comes up through a concrete floor and up into a concrete floor. So no play at all. And will I get this from bss?
 
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Picked this up today simon johns. Is that what you were talking about?
 
Yes. Use a little jointing paste on the face to aid the seal. But the copper faces will seal better than iron only
 
You will still need a few mm of play between two fixed points with those unions.
 
Yes a little bit of play, a couple of mm am sure they can get. better than the other unions. And it was only £19 from Harris & Bailey. (Big thank you from heliotrope for pointing me to them). What paste do you guys use?
 
Jet blue all the way. I use straight wrought unions, no bother with a bit of paste!
 
straight, as in common or garden. I actually have more trouble with flat faced unions.
 
I get you now cropster. Don't know about having trouble putting them in, but, trying to get hold of those flat faced unions is a nightmare. I hope the above one will judt manage it. Otherwise it is off to plumb centre for a £66+vat wrought flat faced.
 
Are you not able these days to just thread the pipe a bit longer and then use back nut? With paste it wouldn't leak like ptfe does if you unwind it a bit after tightening it up too much
 
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