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  1. Sarah Wykes

    Sarah Wykes New Member

    We moved to a new house a few months ago and recently the ensuite shower started leaking into the kitchen. My husband had started to take away the sealant and noticed that the shower tray is not flush with the tiles, so that's likely to be where the problem is but obviously need to ensure that's the only area as there two areas of staining on the kitchen ceiling. My Father has told me that you are meant to fit a shower tray and then tile, not the other way around and we will continue to have leaks unless this is rectified. I do not really want to start looking at re-tiling though and was already considering getting an electric shower fitted as currently there's an electric pump in an upstairs cupboard which gives the shower it's water pressure but it's temperamental and sometimes doesn't work. So wondered what your thoughts were of fitting an electric shower and new shower tray and shower doors, I have attached photos of the current shower, pump and enclosure and what I thought of replacing the enclosure with and also having and electric shower fitted, as the suggested enclosure has a low tray (there may be more ultra thin corner trays available?) would the tiles still need to be disc cut and then the tray inserted?

    On another note the main bathroom for some reason the previous owners installed a new bathroom without any extraction fan. I have attached a photo of the bathroom and the light fitting and was wondering whether the light fitting can be changed for an extraction light fitting (as we have one in the ensuite) and then it possibly be fitted up to the other extraction and out of the house?

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  2. Vicdiy

    Vicdiy Member

    It looks like a lovely bathroom. Ideally the tiles should sit on the shower tray but not essential, re seal with sealant making sure it is squirted in to the gap as well as on top and finish with a sealant tool, my daughter's bathroom had the tiles behind the shower tray and I had no problem sealing but check and resell every six months or so, it only takes about an hour to scrape out and resell.I would definitely not change to an electric shower, the flow rate is nowhere near as good and they don't look that good. You will not need new shower tray and doors.I may be wrong but if the bathroom has a window that can be opened I don't think you have to have an extract. My bathroom is quite large and if it gets too steamy we just open the window for a couple of minutes. The problem with extracts that are linked to the light switch is they are extracting heat when you don't want them to.Shower pumps normally work or don't so I don't know what the problem is there but a new pump would cost a lot less than all the other things you were suggesting. I hope this helps.
     
  3. Jim Goodenough

    Jim Goodenough Plumber

    You could fit a tile to tray trim like Byretech Showerseal 4 Sided Ultra 10 White - 1.25m - SSWK02 | B-TECH-SSWK02
    Before doing so remove the old silicone and re-point the gap flush with silicone, let it set, then fit the trim kit.

    As to the shower I would definitely keep what you've got (see if you can get the pump repaired or replace). Electric showers are never as good as a mixer shower IMO.

    Cheers
     
  4. king of pipes

    king of pipes Trusted Plumber GSR

    A good clean up and reseal should sort the problem out done alot worse than that, I do maintenance in a hotel the baths are always moving due to being poorly installed in the first place not had one beat me yet best of luck. kop

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  5. Matchless.plumb

    Matchless.plumb Trusted Plumber GSR

    Wouldn’t install the trims. Never came across any trim which was done right. They always leak and leave horrible marks. As KOP said, re sealing would the job.
     
  6. Vicdiy

    Vicdiy Member

    I agree trims start to look tatty very quickly. If the sealant starts to look tatty it can be easily scraped out and replaced.
     
  7. Ben-gee

    Ben-gee Active Member

    Yes plastic trims are awful, this could be a case for the classic Johnson Cristal ceramic bath quadrant trims! Silicone seal joint to do the actual sealing then cover with these 70’s beauties. If done well they look good, cover a big gap and clean up nicely....honest
     
  8. Vicdiy

    Vicdiy Member

    Not with that lovely modern bathroom methinks!!!
     
  9. Ben-gee

    Ben-gee Active Member

    I think you're looking at the brochure pictures and not the OP's actual bathroom.
     
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  10. Vicdiy

    Vicdiy Member

    Yes you are right, I only looked at the shower pump on the attached photos and assumed the main pictures were their bathroom.Why would you enclose brochure photos?
     
  11. Vicdiy

    Vicdiy Member

    Actually I think I can answer my own question, on reading the original post more carefully she referred to these as something she might change to. Silly me I will slap my own hands, I thought it was an incredibly sleek, clean bathroom!
     
  12. Jim Goodenough

    Jim Goodenough Plumber

    Apologies was only trying to be helpful, I don't like trims myself. Good quality sanitary silicone and use Elch or Fugi tools and or course Wonder Wipes or similar to clean up with as you go!
     
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  13. Jim Goodenough

    Jim Goodenough Plumber

     
  14. Jim Goodenough

    Jim Goodenough Plumber

    Evening KOP,

    Can I ask you what you find best to clean old sealant/silicone off with, after the Stanley knife blade, fore finger and thumb nails (or what's left of them of course :D) ?

    Cheerz
     
  15. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    screwfixs own silicon cleaner for me
     
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