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  1. MartinWF

    MartinWF New Member

    Hello everyone.

    Could someone offer me some advice as to how to deal with the following, please?

    I'm removing a radiator from an en-suite. It will not be replaced. There is speedfit micro bore behind it into the plasterwork and it may or may not be push fitted on to copper, I'm unable to see without removing quite a chunk of plasterboard. In these newish build houses I've learned that literally anything is possible when it comes to their construction and none of it is good.

    I want to conceal the pipes behind the wall and plaster over, however, I'm nervous about using any connections at all that aren't soldered copper when it comes to in-wall situations.

    Are my concerns unfounded in the face of modern plumbing tech?

    I think I know what you might all say, but just wanted to be sure there isnt an easier option.

    Many thanks
     
  2. Riley

    Riley S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Soldered. Or better yet remove the pipe
     
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  3. Rob Foster

    Rob Foster Top Contributor!!

    Do not leave dead legs if possible they are just stored up trouble. zTrace pipes back to main circuit and severe there
    Rob Foster aka centralheatking
     
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  4. Best

    Best Trusted Plumber

    Remove pipes back to where they connect to, if possible.
    One of those jobs you will just have to evaluate when you are opening up the wall, unless you have pipes coming down stud wall from above and easy to sort now
     
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  5. CBW1982

    CBW1982 Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    As others have said, better to remove, as I doubt you’ll get soldered. If it’s an en-suite, my guess is they’ll come up from the floor somewhere unless it’s a bungalow?
     
  6. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Speedfit elbow and a piece of copper and a soldered cap end
     
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  7. CBW1982

    CBW1982 Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    I don’t think he wants any fittings behind wall unless soldered, which a speed fit elbow would be.
     
  8. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Tough there’s already fittings in there / under floors

    It’s sither that or rip a ceiling down to find the main runs
     
  9. CBW1982

    CBW1982 Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Good point. Thought under the floor might be in copper, but could just as easily be plastic.
     
  10. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    New build will be plastic esp if it’s a big site / developer

    Floors will be glued down so that’s a no go
     
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  11. Rob Foster

    Rob Foster Top Contributor!!

    ugh laminate flooring or tongue and grooved chip board the things nightmares are made of
    centralheatking
     
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  12. MartinWF

    MartinWF New Member

    Thanks guys.

    The flooring is some kind of waterproof chipboard and pulling that up is going to be quite a big job to say the least.

    There are 3 other radiators on the same floor of the house. How could I completely remove the pipe for the single rad without affecting the others, don't they all work on the same circuit, for want of a better term? As in, they are connected in serial, rather than a loop off the main for each rad. Thats how it looks from what I can see due to the direction of the inflow and outflow from the rad.

    I've never removed anything from the system before, so I'm not familiar with the issues around doing so.

    It's a 2005 new build by a big developer, so probably a lot of plastic. If only I knew then what I know now..
     
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  13. Rob Foster

    Rob Foster Top Contributor!!

    Look to break into t & g chip board is dead easy...work out where the joists are...then use a claw hammer and just bash away ...in a tight area where you think the pipes are..dont use silly stuff like jigsaw, drills or circular saws because you will get a wire or a pipe. Once you have biffed out a decent hole and found out whats below then trim it all off with a circukar saw , square it off and when you are done make up a trap with similar thickness stuff, stick it down with ..silly cone ..easy
    Centralheatking
     
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  14. MartinWF

    MartinWF New Member

    Aye, all good Rob thanks. I might just have to youtube this project so everyone can have a chuckle at my blithering incompetence :D

    I've just realised also, that I can't avoid soldering as I'll have to do it for the new shower, so I might as well cut my teeth straight away and have a practice before I start the strip out..

    I've got laco flux, some frys solder and a wrap around mat (and a fire extinguisher..). Just need to find a good torch.

    On that note, can anyone recommend one that will last?

    A baseline pro grade would be ideal, dont need bells and whistles, just solid quality. I can't stand tat, especially in terms of tools.

    Thanks to everyone for the above. It's great learning all this stuff, I really enjoy the process of tackling these projects. Thanks for contributing.
     
  15. Rob Foster

    Rob Foster Top Contributor!!

    I think mine is Primus and I use Propane or occasionally
    Map but that can be too hot.
    The only downside is when the bottle is new and full when you use it upside down it can blow out as it gets used up then it stays in...centralheatking
     
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