Gas rate app

[Doodlebug]

British Gas engineers are being advised not to use gas rate apps as tests have shown them to be inaccurate and unreliable.

 

[woodsy]

When i had my gassafe inspection not long since, he asked me why when i had an i-phone i wasn't using an app. for this. I replied that i had it but thought he would want to see me work it out to which he replied , use the app !!!

 

[Doodlebug]

This is fresh news briefed today, British Gas have instructed the whole workforce not to use any gas rate apps, we have had to sign to say we have had the brief.

 

[GrahamM]

I had same brief a month or so ago.
I have compared the apps, to BG's computer and also manual calcs and there is a difference between all, but nothing more than 5% or so.

 

[Nostrum]

but it's just a stopwatch and a calculator in one how can they possibly get it wrong, and if they did it would be wrong every time rather than here or there.

Gas rating is hardly an exact science anyway especially with these new card meters that you have to push buttons and wait etc, as long as you are in the ball park area your fine! 5% above and 10% below isn't it?

 

[Doodlebug]

All I know is we have been told they are immaculate and can't be relied on.

 

[Doodlebug]

All I know is we have been told they are immaculate and can't be relied on.

Meant inaccurate lol

 

[GrahamM]

I believe it is BG just trying to standardise the process for itself by making sure all its engineers use the laptop.
The G/R calculation process by any means is not an exact science.

 

[Doodlebug]

I think BG are going to bring out their own app

 

[Doodlebug]

None of the current apps have actually been passed as ok to use

 

[GrahamM]

I think BG are going to bring out their own app

Heard that.
Will not hold my breath waiting for it though.

 

[Doodlebug]

It will happen, that I do know. ;-)

 

[chis1230]

hi all ,new to these forums, anyone know if theres an app for blackberry? can't seem to find it if there is, thanks

 

[Doodlebug]

Yeh it's called a calculator lol

 

[Doodlebug]

Yeh it's called a calculator lol

Stopwatch

 

[GrahamM]

People still use those blackberrys?
I know what I would be asking santa for.:tongue3:

 

[zeebeedee]

It's just a mathematic equation it can't be wrong. There is more chance of human error recording the figures or timing it wrong!

 

[Doodlebug]

Well when it goes Pete Tong, you can say you heard it here first. ;-)

 

[chis1230]

so many thanks go out to all of you for your expert help

 

[Doodlebug]

so many thanks go out to all of you for your expert help

Google it mate, their must be an app

 

[AWheating]

mine works good enough for me. Probably a BG engineer failed internal audit and blamed his iphone LOL.

 

[Nostrum]

Or B.G not liking the fact that something without a Britsh Gas logo and overinflated price tag is being used on one of their jobs.

 

[stevetheplumber]

when the bg app comes out it will abort the test halfway and demand the system is powerflushed and a co detector fitted before you get the answer

 

[hammers4spanner]

British Gas engineers are being advised not to use gas rate apps as tests have shown them to be inaccurate and unreliable.

Probably just confuses there engineers these days !

 

[villa_tom]

To be fair to them you can't blame them if they don't want their blokes to use it. The laptop has a programme to do it for you. So if they want all their blokes to use that then everyone's gas rate will be as per their own programme and everything confirms to what they want.

If their has been known discrepancies on the iPhone app then you can't blame anyone fr not wanting to use it, especially a firm the size of BG. If they made a mistake using this app then coud you imagine the uproar, so they've banned it and their till getting stick. They can't win either way really.

I personally don't this app I use a calculator. I was toying with paying for the app but this post would be enough for me not to bother.

 

[tamz]

The calculations will vary region to region according to the calorific value of the gas. Unless you know and use that in your calcs you are working to an approximation.

 

[acecharly]

I have all mine on 2 sheets of paper just cross reference job done.

 

[Orry Clayton]

The calculations will vary region to region according to the calorific value of the gas. Unless you know and use that in your calcs you are working to an approximation.

I was thinking same, how many check bills for correct CV?

 

[tamz]

Very few if any.

 

[zeebeedee]

No mention of checking the cv of the gas in any text book or reg I have seen. The difference is probably that minimal it has no affect.

 

[kay-jay]

No mention of checking the cv of the gas in any text book or reg I have seen. The difference is probably that minimal it has no affect.

Up to 5%

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[zeebeedee]

Probably not far of that in human error on the timing or readings

 

[zeebeedee]

Up to 5%

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So on a 24 kw boiler you could be 1.2kw out.

 

[Nostrum]

Sutely the badged input rating of the boiler would have to make an assumption on the CV of the fuel as well though, so in effect it doesn't matter. Only gas rating to determine the correct quantity of fuel is being used by the appliance, not to actually calculated heat production.

 

[EPH]

Well if BG say so then I'm ditching mine :willy_nilly:

Be better teaching some of the lads the back boilers need ventilation!