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Hi Everyone,
I am about to pay £7000 to get this c&g 6132 qual with acs assesment over a 17 week period with 8-12 weeks working with local company, and rest at the training centre which i have visited and it does look great and the guys are decent (not salesmen). Just wanted to know if anyone has done this qual and if they found it easy to get a job after etc.

Thanks.
 
Suppose it depends who you do it with. I'm out on placement at the moment and things are going well. Did it with a company near Bradford. The City & Guilds 6132 is fine for working safely on gas but they covered loads of stuff that wasn't in the qualification. Their head tutor told me that he wants to turn out engineers who are employable, not just gas fitters. The big selling factor though was the guaranteed placement. It'll probably take more than 17 weeks but if you did cookers, that would probably be achievable. It's the ACS that's the big one and there were guys who had finished their ACS and had been taken on by their placement company when I was doing the 1st 8 weeks so I'm confident I'll be alright.

What company have you spoken to?
 
HI thanks for reply!

I have spoke to brookhouse training who are also like your post...what about you?
 
Yeah it's Brookhouse who I'm doing it with. The training's been spot on to be fair. I'm out on placement in Nottingham at the moment.
 
The City & Guilds 6132 is fine for working safely on gas but they covered loads of stuff that wasn't in the qualification

Do you think so:confused:

At 7k a whak and a never ending stream of gullible people, i'm definitely in the wrong side of this game.
 
Its a good place actually ive been researchin for bowt a yr now. Look it up brookhousetraining.com
 
yeah i see your point about 7k but honestly if you get a spare morning go see em on a opening day because like most of yu i thought these courses are a money scam etc etc but i can honestly say im the last person to sign on the dotted line ...i read every letter of every word in the small print and research diff companys etc. and brrokhouse is the only one that actually seems like yu will learn summet. its hard to make you see so thats y i say go to the opening day and see. brookhouse cover vast courses they also do re-assesments etc. and this is the only company that i found that guarantees a work placement in your local area!
 
Fuzzy, do you know how much companies charge for doing just a 6129 distance learning course? Anything between £4k & £6k. Just to be a basic plumber. If you knew what I got for £6795 and what I know compared to some of the gas engineers I'm working with, you wouldn't be commenting.
 
Do you think so:confused:

At 7k a whak and a never ending stream of gullible people, i'm definitely in the wrong side of this game.

Tamz, you have absolutely no idea what I covered in that course. The 6132 was part of it. So, before you start calling people gullible, don't just look at one sentence and start making ridiculous statements. That's the one thing I hate about these forums. There are so many people on here who go off on one without knowing what they're talking about. If you did the amount of research that I did into this industry and knew pretty much what every training company is like, what they deliver and how they deliver it, how sales oriented they were, what they do after you complete you training etc, you wouldn't be commenting.
 
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Fuzzy, do you know how much companies charge for doing just a 6129 distance learning course? Anything between £4k & £6k. Just to be a basic plumber. If you knew what I got for £6795 and what I know compared to some of the gas engineers I'm working with, you wouldn't be commenting.


Not sure what you mean mate, 7k is alot of money when you can get it for nothing as an apprentice, and dont think you cannot be an apprentice because of age, there are no age restrictions. Ive heard that some centres say there is, now why would they do that?
 
Tamz, you have absolutely no idea what I covered in that course. The 6132 was part of it. So, before you start calling people gullible, don't just look at one sentence and start making ridiculous statements. That's the one thing I hate about these forums. There are so many people on here who go off on one without knowing what they're talking about. If you did the amount of research that I did into this industry and knew pretty much what every training company is like, what they deliver and how they deliver it, how sales oriented they were, what they do after you complete you training etc, you wouldn't be commenting.

The gullible part is the false hopes that are built of jobs for life and stupid amounts of money to be made. No matter how good the training centres are the people parting with the cash are VERY unlikely ever to be employed. Their only route is self employment which is not easy. The biggest problem is the lack of experience which cannot be taught in any classroom.
I would like to see some figures of how many people are still at the trade 2 years down the line from the expensive training course.

I have had 38 years of "research" in this industry and i still learn every day.
Keep reading your books and i'm sure it will all work out in the end.
 
Not sure what you mean mate, 7k is alot of money when you can get it for nothing as an apprentice, and dont think you cannot be an apprentice because of age, there are no age restrictions. Ive heard that some centres say there is, now why would they do that?

I can get it for nothing as an apprentice? Maybe so. I don't particularly want to spend 4 years of my life on crap money. If I had got offered an apprenticeship, I still wouldn't have taken it. Things have changed a lot since you probably did your apprenticeship.
 
The gullible part is the false hopes that are built of jobs for life and stupid amounts of money to be made. No matter how good the training centres are the people parting with the cash are VERY unlikely ever to be employed. Their only route is self employment which is not easy. The biggest problem is the lack of experience which cannot be taught in any classroom.
I would like to see some figures of how many people are still at the trade 2 years down the line from the expensive training course.

I have had 38 years of "research" in this industry and i still learn every day.
Keep reading your books and i'm sure it will all work out in the end.

By this industry, I meant the training industry, not the plumbing & gas industry. I'm under no illusions that I'm going to make stupid amounts of money. I'm not someone who has thought 'ooh I'm going to change career, I think I'll be a gas engineer'. I agree with you, most of the people who think that are kidding themselves. I know there's work out there, you've just got to know how to find it. Also, 75% of all gas jobs that are done in Scotland are done illegally. If Gas Safe manage to sort that out, that's a lot of work added to the pot for people like yourself.
 
I'm under no illusions that I'm going to make stupid amounts of money. I'm not someone who has thought 'ooh I'm going to change career, I think I'll be a gas engineer'. I agree with you, most of the people who think that are kidding themselves.

As long as you keep it real and don't believe the hype.

I know there's work out there, you've just got to know how to find it.

Now that is the hard bit and with little experience and no contacts, even harder.

Also, 75% of all gas jobs that are done in Scotland are done illegally.

You may want to recheck your sources on that one. It is well out.

If Gas Safe manage to sort that out, that's a lot of work added to the pot for people like yourself.

As said before, keep it real. No matter how hard they try, it won't happen.
 
Keep reading your books and i'm sure it will all work out in the end.

This course is not a distant learning course were you mainly read books! so obv your 38 years of research doesnt cover what this thread is about, so why comment. unless you have anything decent to say then please stop commenting on this thread.
 
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This course is not a distant learning course were you mainly read books! so obv your 38 years of research doesnt cover what this thread is about, so why comment. unless you have anything decent to say then please stop commenting on this thread.

That will be me told then:p:D

No matter what type of course it is you will need good books as you will quickly find out when your "time is out:D" how little you know.
A bit like learning to swim in the classroom then being thrown off the high dive board to test what you have learned.
 
i totally understand were your coming from but the thread i have started here is a slightly different course from what i keep finding other ppl doing (6129) course no. asside . the place alot of ppl seem to be doin there "training" is at home from cd roms and books (i know this as i have actually had the course information officer aka sales rep. round my place trying to sell me a similar course when i first started out on this idea) this course i am about to possibly start is actually mainly focused on praticall even your theory is done at the centre were you do your praticall and on top they gurantee you work placement which is a very large chuck of the course(you never at any stage work from home) plus on this course you do your ACS see link for course info: Brookhouse Training Centre | Best Gas & Plumbing Courses in Yorkshire | Multi-Skill Gas|Brookhouse Training Centre: The Specialist ACS Gas Training Company
 
seeing as tamz and fuzzy havehad a slagging my turn now. I cannt ever understand why anyone could fork out £7K when its possible to get training for free and possibly find an employer for the long term when doing so. In the real world youll be earning a pitance for several years when you start out on your own anyhow when getting established as self employed or as a newbie to the trade working for someone else and that seven thousand would be better off in your own bank rather than someone elses. omho but glossy brochures and websites always seem to attract people in to easily, bit like moths to a light. Still whatever way you go for i good luck, youll need it.
 
seeing as tamz and fuzzy havehad a slagging my turn now. I cannt ever understand why anyone could fork out £7K when its possible to get training for free and possibly find an employer for the long term when doing so. In the real world youll be earning a pitance for several years when you start out on your own anyhow when getting established as self employed or as a newbie to the trade working for someone else and that seven thousand would be better off in your own bank rather than someone elses. omho but glossy brochures and websites always seem to attract people in to easily, bit like moths to a light. Still whatever way you go for i good luck, youll need it.

Now that is a good bit of advice but most learn the hard way i'm afraid.
 
Firstly its no slaggin match its a forum were on, and i expect opinions thats why i created a thread. I only wasnt to happy with tamz comments because of the fact she was concentratin on distant learing courses (well thats the pic i got neway) . Now about the glossy brochures n websites part thats all good and well but i have actually been to this centre and got my opinion that way plus you will see in above comments i was actually speaking to someone currently on the course sayin how good it is. Also im glad you found it easy to get an apprenticeship etc but ive tried and its really really hard even my own bro in law couldnt take me on in his company due to lack of work in local area, and larger companys never had any spaces and when they did they were snapped up by school leavers etc i only started this thread to get info on course not were i do it!!!
 
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