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came across a real horror of an installation, the boiler was in a cupboard and about 1.6m to the bottom, so the flue was out of eye sight, looks like a half decent install not the best, look a bit further(flue) and its a horror show. What amazes me is that it was an ex-rented property so landlord certificates spring to mind, if I can find out how to get photos from my HTC onto the PC I'll post them up, could be a real contender for The Good the bad and the ugly in the GS mag. So going to a job to rip out bathroom, end up condeming their boiler and disconnecting it :p they were perfectly fine with it though once they seen the evidence.
 
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stevetheplumber said:
now that i would riddor
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My thought too! That is shocking.

Although, as a lot of commercial guys know, its common practice and perfectly legal, all be it with the correct flue connections and a boiler designed for the purpose, to draw the air from the boiler room whilst flueing the fumes to the outside. Forced draught or fan draught its called yeh? ... :)
 
they have just moved in, so how the hell was it passed to be able to sell the house ?? would they be able to bill the previous owner for the repair ??
 
They can bill the previous owners if less than a week. Tell them to get on to their lawyer straight away.
 
I am going to RIDDOR it, its a young family that has bought the house with a new born, and a 4 year old. Luckily they are not staying in the house and are staying in a flat as the house is getting a full refurb, I feel sorry for them though as fixing it will be in excess of £300 probably so they shouldnt need to pay for it.
 
Definite contender for the GS Mag Gerry!. That's unbelievably bad. I would Riddor it aswell.
 
I have sent away the Riddor, and got an e-mail today saying that they have sent the details to HSE, customer missed her deadline so don't know if she will have any luck with the lawyer, I told her to get on the phone anyway and complain and try and find out who installed it.

One of my other jobs today, went to it and the B&Q kitchen fitters have boxed in the boiler and now I cant get the casing off !! luckily they are coming back tomorrow to finish so told customers to tell them to change it or else its AR. And the customer has fitted his own gutters and downpipes which are about 5mm away from my flue, not my fault but what should be done to cover my own back ??
 
sorry its the gutter that is close to the flue not the downpipe, should have been more clearer
 
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if is gutters then is your fault as you should have exstand flue to clear gutters and stick out 25mm ,not to late to stick new exstation on flue me think just make it his fault and get them to pay for it
 
no stan not my fault when I done it it was fine, and it extends out past the gutters by a good bit, but hes fitted new gutters and they are lower than the old ones and probably 5mm above the flue, so the 25mm is from the flue terminal then and not the actual flue pipe ??
 
got a phonecall today from a woman from HSE, they are looking into this and were wanting to contact the customer to get the details of previous owner, I think they are looking at prosecuting her as she was a landlady, and to try and find out who installed it.
 
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3rd picture is the outer duct, rusted really badly, the flue wasnt even joined to the terminal and the pipe had no run in it and was also sagging in the middle, that's why the middle picture is all stained and the outer flue pipe is all rusted i believe. Couldn't finish repair tonight the 2 holes were practically in line with eachother so couldn't get my run back to boiler, will have to go back and make hole bigger to be able to get a decent run in the pipe, will probably have to use a long chisel and hammer while up on a ladder 3.5m up from ground.
 
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Heres another one.

Visited a private rented house in which the newish tenant was reporting a smell of gas/fumes in her kitchen.

Found a combi in the kitchen cupboard. The inside leaf of the cavity was just a big chasm with lots of bricks missing and the insulation pouring out of it. There was also a hole in the outer leaf and the only seal was the outer neoprene seal around the flue which didnt cover the hole anyway. In addition,the meter fitted directly above it had no earthing,the wire was just flapping about and had never been connected. The blowoff had never been connected/piped to outside and the flue outlet was right beside the window !

The tenant said that a man had been out to "repair" the boiler only a few days previous as it hadnt worked properly since she moved in. No sign of a Landlords safety cert.


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Another recently spotted...

DFE gas fire and repro cast iron type fireplace.

The semi circular hinged cast iron flap at the back of the fire opening can be flapped forward to totally close the flue outlet opening. There was also no permanent air vent. Custard said it was fitted by a local GSR firm and the guy had said to him that he must always remember to open the flap before turning the fire on..yeah right..

Anyone seen anything like this?

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I have seen that before, but it was held open by slotting abit of 15mm copper across it. It needs to be permanently fixed open or removed, the one I saw just like yours just lifted out.
 
Pssst said:
Another recently spotted...

DFE gas fire and repro cast iron type fireplace.

The semi circular hinged cast iron flap at the back of the fire opening can be flapped forward to totally close the flue outlet opening. There was also no permanent air vent. Custard said it was fitted by a local GSR firm and the guy had said to him that he must always remember to open the flap before turning the fire on..yeah right..

Anyone seen anything like this?

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Seen one exactly like that about 3 months ago in wokingham, like your one customer said not long fitted, about 3yrs and the just open the flap when the used it
 
Went out on some new install inspections today, two neighbouring properties and I shut down both for the flue not being sealed.
 

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CMairiD said:
Went out on some new install inspections today, two neighbouring properties and I shut down both for the flue not being sealed.
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bet its a builder whos bought a gas safe sticker for his van from ebay
 
No, it was a GSR reg'd company. Going to more tomorrow in that neighbourhood and wonder what I'll find.
 
Home counties.

And another for your entertainment. Can you spot the error?
 

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Yep, blow off into the condense pump. To be honest, I didn't see it on the first inspection ... took the picture for another reason. Went back to the picture and BLOODY HELL ... first time I've seen that trick.
 
can i take my hat off with the capital D on it and have a gold star ?
 
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